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I don't know why I'm excited about this 442 Pro series. Part #178041. I weighed it here at home in at about 14.5oz. I'm no stranger to pocket carry on a 14 oz. Airweight so me being a big fan of "moonclipped guns" and DAO, I had seen this in the catalog only and ordered it on specifications alone.
The trigger is good! I cannot wait to take it to the range. One thing I noticed off the bat was being able to use a "high hand hold", something the hammer doesn't let you do. And found the factory grips even more comfortable on this model than my 637 with a hammer.
I have pocket carried a 340 and 360 pd. I've literally had wallets and keys that felt heavier than those! And shooting 38 specials on a little bug gun, I told myself I didn't want to shoot magnums out of something that small.
Anyways. I already put it in the pocket and it dissappears. IMO, 14 oz. On 38spl 158gr are very light taps. And controllable. And me just trying to get my "J frame game on". And having something usable at my disposal is all that matters.
I took pics of my pocket carry nemesis and Blackhawk retention one. I've honestly used the nemesis one more than the Blackhawk. Or have gone sans holster. That's the beauty of having something small. I paid $450 for it and was happy to do so. My example built 9/18.

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The 442 is the best deal going in a pocket carry 38 IMO.
I bought this tarted up PC version new last year and so far I like it. I added the Altamonts for an easier shooting grip than the pocket "clip grip" the gun came with. No moon clips though, which I kinda wish it had.
 

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Literally.

I don't know why I'm excited about this 442 Pro series. Part #178041. I weighed it here at home in at about 14.5oz. I'm no stranger to pocket carry on a 14 oz. Airweight so me being a big fan of "moonclipped guns" and DAO, I had seen this in the catalog only and ordered it on specifications alone.
The trigger is good! I cannot wait to take it to the range. One thing I noticed off the bat was being able to use a "high hand hold", something the hammer doesn't let you do. And found the factory grips even more comfortable on this model than my 637 with a hammer.
I have pocket carried a 340 and 360 pd. I've literally had wallets and keys that felt heavier than those! And shooting 38 specials on a little bug gun, I told myself I didn't want to shoot magnums out of something that small.
Anyways. I already put it in the pocket and it dissappears. IMO, 14 oz. On 38spl 158gr are very light taps. And controllable. And me just trying to get my "J frame game on". And having something usable at my disposal is all that matters.
I took pics of my pocket carry nemesis and Blackhawk retention one. I've honestly used the nemesis one more than the Blackhawk. Or have gone sans holster. That's the beauty of having something small. I paid $450 for it and was happy to do so. My example built 9/18.

I know why you are excited, that is a really nice little handgun. Get that little bugger out to the range.
Please consider NEVER carrying without a holster that covers the trigger guard.
That said,
I know little about retention holsters but having to push a button to release a handgun is fine but if you ever switch to something else your muscle memory may not be your friend. That button on the Blackhawk is right where your finger goes when you want to fire the gun. I know its a DA trigger but too many LEO's have had ND's when changing from duty carry to civilian carry when their finger automatically pushed a retention button that was not there.
 
I don't know a lot about revolvers, (that is why I am hanging out here) but I thought you did not need moon clips for 38 special ammo. Why does one 442 need them, and another one does not?

It is an upgrade. Not a necessity. I don't find it necessary but I have not had one yet to really know. I just use speed loaders and speed strips.

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Lou, you do not need to use Moonclips to load your gun, in fact, I find them to be a pain during reloads. The long cartridges wobble around and make reloading more difficult. They do work for the initial load and they do ensure complete extraction. Beyond that, I got rid of my 38 cal moonclips long ago.
 
Lou, you do not need to use Moonclips to load your gun, in fact, I find them to be a pain during reloads. The long cartridges wobble around and make reloading more difficult. They do work for the initial load and they do ensure complete extraction. Beyond that, I got rid of my 38 cal moonclips long ago.
Great thing about this model is that it can be loaded singularly. And fired. Or with a speedloader (the hks#36? pictured above fits,and was the one I used with my 637. It's in the first 4 pictures off on the side..) and fired . Or can be loaded with moonclips and fired.
The 38s do dangle and sometimes are difficult depending what bullets are used, to load. 158gr load well...
But they do keep everything in one package. Both in loading and extraction.

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Lou, you do not need to use Moonclips to load your gun, in fact, I find them to be a pain during reloads. The long cartridges wobble around and make reloading more difficult. They do work for the initial load and they do ensure complete extraction. Beyond that, I got rid of my 38 cal moonclips long ago.
I have a SW 642, and I'm glad someone commented on reloading with a speedloader/moon clips.
The 642 was bought many years ago and came with a pair of nice wooden grips. Unfortunately, the grips won't allow a speedloader and the moon clip with the longer .38 ammo make it difficult to load correctly.
I rarely carry additional ammo as I have nowhere to keep it without having it look like I have a speedloader in my pocket. I'm not in a position to carry a speedloader openly.
My question to you that are pocket/CCW veterans is there a specific need for more ammo? Spock/logic tells me, after a couple of rounds rotated through the aggressor will be down, running away, or, of course, I may be down.
Thanks for taking time to read this, and more so, reply with expert opinions.
Le
 
I have a SW 642, and I'm glad someone commented on reloading with a speedloader/moon clips.
The 642 was bought many years ago and came with a pair of nice wooden grips. Unfortunately, the grips won't allow a speedloader and the moon clip with the longer .38 ammo make it difficult to load correctly.
I rarely carry additional ammo as I have nowhere to keep it without having it look like I have a speedloader in my pocket. I'm not in a position to carry a speedloader openly.
My question to you that are pocket/CCW veterans is there a specific need for more ammo? Spock/logic tells me, after a couple of rounds rotated through the aggressor will be down, running away, or, of course, I may be down.
Thanks for taking time to read this, and more so, reply with expert opinions.
Le
Carrying extra ammunition, or a backup gun for that matter is a decision that only you can make for yourself. I know people that fell they need to carry a pistol that holds no less than 15 rounds in the magazine and two spare magazines.

While I may not think that is needed every day, I can't fault the logic.

For myself, if I'm ONLY carrying a J-frame, I have at least one speed strip with it.

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