Scandium

have a s & w pc model ....

with the scandium fame . love the gun but not just for the frame material . that being said , i DID want a gun with this material just for t he sake of having it before it went up in price or not being made anymore .

undoubtablly s & w has an angle for using this material . but all in all , its still cool to have one in my stable of handguns !
 
I have owned, shot, and carried the 340PD since they came out. I am not recoil sensitive and I find there is very little difference between the 442 and the 340PD shooting 38 sp. The real advantage I see is lighter weight and stronger frame. In my case the disadvantage is not using metal brushes or harsh chemicals on the Ti. cylinder, which is something I never do anyway regardless of finish on the gun.

My 340 has been cleaned, holstered, and drawn a hundred times or more with no visible wear on the frame or cylinder.

As for the cost? It is up to the buyers wallet and desire to own that particular model that determines the buying price.

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Folks, just why did this material fall out of favor? Several years ago it was all the rage and I bought two, the 386PD and the 329PD. I think that they are great. Were there undue problems with them? Just curious. There are only a handful in the catalog now. What happened?

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yashua
Smith and Wesson still manufactures Scandium revolvers

I am probably in the minority, but I do not believe that Scandium framed firearms have fallen out of favor with those of us that they first found favor with

At the moment I have 10 or 11 Scandium framed revolvers and you would be hard pressed to get me to sell them

I think that Scandium is the greatest thing to happen in N and L frame revolvers since the introduction of stainless handguns. Scandium drops the weight of a 4", 8 shot 327 or a 329 or 357 to about what a 4" model 19/66 weigh. It makes carrying the bigger guns a pleasure vs. a chore
 
I can think of no greater deterrent to learning how to shoot well, than a lightweight revolver chambered for a serious cartridge.
Only an instructor that is a idiot would hand a Scandium framed revolver chambered in a Magnum cartridge to a novice student

When any shooter comes to me for training the first firearm they shoot is a K-22 Masterpiece loaded with Aguila Super Colibri. This ammunition has no powder, no recoil and is hearing safe in most firearms. The report is comparable to a loud childs cap gun

This initial event allows me to observe the student's skills without anything in the way. This also puts the Novice Student's mind at ease over fear of recoil or muzzle blast. With Novices I even recover the projectile so they get to keep the first bullet they shot

As Student's abilities dictate they are moved to full power 22LR, then light 38s, then full power 38s etc. until their skill levels are safe and effective with the firearm that they own.
Many years ago, I bought one of the first Model 640 revolvers chambered in .357 Magnum. I fired exactly 60 rounds through it at the range, cleaned it and sold it....and it was stainless steel. I wouldn't even consider owning a Scandium-framed piece...
357 Magnum in a J-frame is not for everybody. There is nothing wrong with knowing your limitations and staying within them.

A Scandium framed, 357 Magnum J-frame is not supposed to be fun to shoot. It is supposed to be light enough that you always have it with you and powerful enough to save your butt when you accidentally walk into something unexpected.

Smith and Wesson makes many dozens of other models for recreational shooting
 
Whatever happened to the titanium framed Smiths? I think they just made them in .22 and .38. I think they came out around '99 or so -called the Ti series. I always wondered why they never had a .357 like Taurus did, but soon after the line had been replaced by the Scandium (Si) models, which included both .357 and .44 Magnums.
Smith and Wesson never produced Titanium framed revolvers.

Firearms like the 242Ti, 296Ti, 331Ti, 337Ti etc. are all Aluminium alloy framed revolvers with Titanium cylinders
 
Like anything that is a commodity, I'm sure the price on scandium fluctuates according to supply and demand. Perhaps rather than anything inherent in the design or customer satisfaction, the more limited number of Sc guns currently in the catalog might have more to do with the ones who count the beans than anything else.
 
I had 360 in 357 that I pocket carried. I tired the 357 route and it was just no darn fun. Then one day I dropped it on a concrete driveway. No damage, no bang. But I thought why am I carrying this expensive gun to shoot 38s. So I traded it. I missed it and recently bought the 360 in 38. I love it and it's about half the cost. I'm carrying it today as a matter of fact. I'm not in love with my holster
 

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I think that in order to be labeled Scandium the gun needs to contain at least 3% of that material in the alloy. Some gun manufacturers were working on a lighter alloy called "Floatinium". The idea was abandoned as a string had to be tied to the trigger guard to keep the gun from floating away.
The weight savings on the scandium J frames just doesn't justify the almost twice the price of a standard alloy similar model.

Next they will use Unobtainium which is mined on the planet Pandora.
 
Scandium principal sources were imports from China, Russia, and Ukraine.
 
I was not aware that Sc guns had fallen out of favor. From recent threads, there seem to be not a few posters who like and carry their M&P 340s. I have two and absolutely adore them. Don't know where I've been, these guns have been out there for years.

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Not for everyday paper punching - I like steal for that. But a great niche set up for when going light is preferred. I like my 329PD with 44 special loads. Really would like to find one in 45 ACP/AR.



I love my 629pd loaded with healthy 44 specials too, it replaced my minty LH 24-3 as the nightstand gun of choice. It doesn't get as much range time as some others but it actually gets carried in the outdoors wherein most of my other N frames are too nice to expose to other than safestorage or a nice range outing. CCW is a tricked out 1911.
 
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When Texas first began the CHL, I bought a 640-1 in 357 Mag. It is pretty heavy for pocket carry in light pants (chinos)....it was doable in Levi's or Wranglers, but still very noticeable. When the very first Scandium models were released, I bought a 340sc in 357 magnum. I had some trial and error to find a load that worked well in the gun and did not beat you to death. I had some LE issue 125gr barn-burners that would bruise my hand in one round - it was like being hit with a ball peen hammer! I have since moved to a mid-range 158gr JHP and they are more comfortable to shoot - and the 340sc is a dream to carry.

IIRC - Scandium is used extensively in aerospace structural assemblies. (not just S&W's).
 
I generally carry a 3913/14......but on hot muggy summer days in "The Burgh".... a 337PD in a nylon holster will often be the gun of "choice" in the pocket of my cargo shorts......... I generally keep it to standard .38hp's.

A joy to carry..... if that's all you can carry....................
 
Love my scandium framed guns. Not sure how many I have, but I know it's a bunch. I've learned over the years, just because it can shoot 357 mag..... doesn't mean you have to shoot 357mag... and just because it shoots 44mag...... you don't have to shoot 44mag. There's a reason for 38sp and 44sp ..... :)

I made one major mistake when I sold my PC327, 2" barrel, my first shot was with black talon 357mag loads.... I couldn't put it back in the bag fast enough. Went out and traded it almost immediately... what a dumby!!! What's even crazier.... I traded it for a 460 xvr!!!!!!
 
Love my scandium framed guns. Not sure how many I have, but I know it's a bunch. I've learned over the years, just because it can shoot 357 mag..... doesn't mean you have to shoot 357mag... and just because it shoots 44mag...... you don't have to shoot 44mag. There's a reason for 38sp and 44sp .....

I made one major mistake when I sold my PC327, 2" barrel, my first shot was with black talon 357mag loads.... I couldn't put it back in the bag fast enough. Went out and traded it almost immediately... what a dumby!!! What's even crazier.... I traded it for a 460 xvr!!!!!!
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I too have a 327 PC I love it Just do not like to shoot 357 mags in it , 38 p is just fine , I don't care it cost 1200 bucks I wanted it LOL
 

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