LVSteve
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But it won't be a life with a career in LE, I hope.
Scott Peterson not guilty
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But it won't be a life with a career in LE, I hope.
Why did you get a gun and shoot the guy instead of waiting for the police? See Florida vs Peterson
That old line about you don't need guns because you have the police just took a serious hit.
That old line about you don't need guns because you have the police just took a serious hit.
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Sistema1927
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He may not be guilty in the eyes of the law, but....
With his six-digit retirement, I'm sure he'll manage.
He gets to collect an $8,702/mo pension to do not do a job he was clearly unwilling to do before, I do not consider not getting to continue his LE career a punishment.
The Last Standing Knight
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I expect this thread to be locked in short order.
But I will say this...I have been told this many times and many have repeated it here today. Police are to protect society as a whole and not individuals. SCOTUS confirmed that decades ago.
As for this individual and his actions I can only say one word:
UVALDE
Case closed.
But I will say this...I have been told this many times and many have repeated it here today. Police are to protect society as a whole and not individuals. SCOTUS confirmed that decades ago.
As for this individual and his actions I can only say one word:
UVALDE
Case closed.
Being a coward is a lifetime punishment. This is how it should go. Not being LE my only "criticism" is abandoning his ride for footrace. Joe
BODYCAM: Allen police release video showing officer who shot and killed shooter - YouTube
BODYCAM: Allen police release video showing officer who shot and killed shooter - YouTube
I read this article about the verdict this morning. As Rustyt said up in post 18, first two sentences, we can't read minds. Only judge people's actions from afar, which is near impossible. Perhaps he was a coward, or acted like one. I don't know. I wasn't there. I only know what the reporters wrote.
Reading between the lines regarding the two dads who walked out silently, we may not have heard the last of them. I do hope they stay out of the news, at least the "bad" part of the news. I don't know what I would do, but I'm thinking a bare knuckles cage match, Thunderdome.
Reading between the lines regarding the two dads who walked out silently, we may not have heard the last of them. I do hope they stay out of the news, at least the "bad" part of the news. I don't know what I would do, but I'm thinking a bare knuckles cage match, Thunderdome.
HOUSTON RICK
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LEO's are not bodyguards. They preserve public order, you preserve your rear end.
I would really like to have the facts before I made a final decision. I do know in the Nashville school and the Allen mall shootings it was settled when the officers disregarded their safety and went towards the gunfire, engaging the shooter, terminating the threat.
This did not happen at Columbine, Uvalde, and this shooting in Florida.
I leave it up to you how to decided.
This did not happen at Columbine, Uvalde, and this shooting in Florida.
I leave it up to you how to decided.
Good for him. I don't know how he sleeps at night...
Funny reading about how checks and balances but when it doesn't work in their favor they get all indignant.
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Another horse & pony show. What a world we live in!
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I shouldn't do this, I know I shouldn't, but here goes:
1) We no longer live in the world where "I wasn't there, I don't know what really happened, so I can't judge" flies. Virtually every act of law enforcement is captured on multiple cameras for posterity and played back in the media long before it is run back in freeze frame for the jury. What really happened is apparent.
2) "None of us knows what they would do in that situation". Some of us do. We've been there and done it and past performance is a good predictor.
3) "He was only following orders". Didn't wash at Nuremburg or My Lai. Doesn't wash at Parkland or Uvalde or the next one.
While I appreciate the ethic that warns against judging others, I also recognize that if we don't call actions right or wrong, even good or evil we are left with anarchy. His actions were cowardly. I worked with officers like that and I considered them worse than no backup. There were others I'd have taken over the 3rd Marines. Brad Pitt had a great line in the movie " Fury": "Do your job". If you can't or won't you should be able to figure that out long before retirement and go find another line of work.
Finally, when I saw the name Scott Peterson I thought they had retried the punk that killed his wife and dumped her body in the Pacific 20 years ago. That's how little attention I've paid to this man and his future.
1) We no longer live in the world where "I wasn't there, I don't know what really happened, so I can't judge" flies. Virtually every act of law enforcement is captured on multiple cameras for posterity and played back in the media long before it is run back in freeze frame for the jury. What really happened is apparent.
2) "None of us knows what they would do in that situation". Some of us do. We've been there and done it and past performance is a good predictor.
3) "He was only following orders". Didn't wash at Nuremburg or My Lai. Doesn't wash at Parkland or Uvalde or the next one.
While I appreciate the ethic that warns against judging others, I also recognize that if we don't call actions right or wrong, even good or evil we are left with anarchy. His actions were cowardly. I worked with officers like that and I considered them worse than no backup. There were others I'd have taken over the 3rd Marines. Brad Pitt had a great line in the movie " Fury": "Do your job". If you can't or won't you should be able to figure that out long before retirement and go find another line of work.
Finally, when I saw the name Scott Peterson I thought they had retried the punk that killed his wife and dumped her body in the Pacific 20 years ago. That's how little attention I've paid to this man and his future.
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That Wuss should not be allowed to carry a badge and gun
again.
again.
Do the individuals not make up the whole?
HOUSTON RICK
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We sleep well knowing that many LEO's for whom being a policeman is a way of life. Unfortunately, we are getting fewer of them and more for whom it is just a job. Similar things have happened elsewhere as the once proud professions of medicine, accounting and law are now industries looking only to separate you from your money in any way legally possible.
There are a lot of forces in our society that have combined to make law enforcement an unattractive profession these days. Relentless criticism from the press...outrage and demonstrations any time a cop has to use force...craven politicians and administrators who don't have the troops' backs...etc.
I have several close family members and friends in law enforcement. I used to tell them I couldn't do their jobs because I have a very low tolerance for nitwits, and because the cars aren't big enough to hold all the ammo I would want to carry. That's even more true today...
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