"Second Six" Speedloader - New to Me

[Vtgw938]

Here is a K frame "Second Six" speedloader. Appears it was used primarily in California including the CHP and LASD. There is a ring that is pushed when loading the cylinder. Little effort is needed to charge the cylinder but the rounds are not held very securely in the loader. Very compact design.

 

[kaaskop49]

Vaguely remember this one. Probably ok for revolver matches, but when I read "the rounds are not held very securely," that would be the kiss of death for social work, IMO.

Kaaskop49
Shield #5103

 

[robertrwalsh]

Haven't seen one of those in ages.

 

[jimmyj]

The first speedloaders in my agency (1960-1970 era) were "Dade". A large knob on the rear that when pushed released all six rounds. Down side was if you dropped a "Dade" it would hit on the knob and all six round would fly away in six different directions.

 

[just plain joe]

I recall reading about these speedloaders in an issue of "Law Enforcement Handgun Digest". Always wanted to try them but I opted for the Safariland Comp 1 and never looked back. Our agency did not initially approve of speedloaders and only permitted belt loops or dump pouches (sigh).

I carried them until we authorized semi-automatic pistols along about 1992. Whole new ball-game then.

Thanks for the stroll down memory lane.

Jm2c

JPJ

 

[Baxter6551]

I’ve seen those Second Six in CA but never used them.
When I was discharged from Army and moved back East I started on the PD in 1978. We carried our own revolvers (4 or 6 inch had to chamber issued .38 plus P 125 gr JHP) and there was no regulation about holster type (Don Hume Border Patrol was favored but older coppers had swivel etc.). But the spare rounds were generally carried in 12 round belt loops on strong side. Some guys used dump pouches. Having started in Law Enforcement in CA I had a Bianchi “Judge” break front and initially HKS then Safariland Comp 1 speed loaders. The only one in my academy class to use them. And then there were these Dade Screw Machine Products loaders mentioned above by Jimmyj which held the rounds in with a spring around the outside of the loader. Pushing the center knob released them. So did dropping them as he noted !

 

[SG-688]

Another thing we have in common but didn't know Vtg.

I have two I bought because I sort'a had a collection of speed loaders even though I carried an auto. I actually gave a demonstration to the chief of a revolver armed agency because none of my friends there had any speedloaders.
(I said I don't like revolvers, not that I don't know how to use one....)

I like the idea of manual chambering rather than relying on gravity.

I have one of the excellent shotgun butt cuffs. I recently saw the design made by Aker.

 

[AJ]

When I was stationed in Ca., I saw them used by a couple of different departments in competitions that I was involved in. Most of the departments that I dealt with used autos (Colt 1911's, HK P7's & Beretta 92's). Mid to late 80's.

 

[SGT ROCK 11B]

When I was buying and selling revolvers with other cops I ended up getting a good variety of speedloaders. Most Departments did not issue speedloaders so officers would buy their own.

I prefer Safariland for duty and PPC Competition.

 

[minconrevo]

The first speedloaders in my agency (1960-1970 era) were "Dade". A large knob on the rear that when pushed released all six rounds. Down side was if you dropped a "Dade" it would hit on the knob and all six round would fly away in six different directions.

I have a Dade or so in my speedloader collection. Yes they WILL send the loaded rounds flying if dropped on the release. The more robust loaders, ex. HKS, take a delibrate "twist" of the release and hence can take more of the usual carry use/abuse.

 

[minconrevo]

Competition practical speed loader mods include the Bubber Mod on Safariland Comp III's. Fair amount of work to mod but results are worth it. The other way is to simply buy Jet speed loaders and run them like they come out of the package.

Speed loading a revolver requires that you allow the loaded cartridges to drop straight vertical in the cylinders AND you allow enough time for gravity to accomplish this BEFORE moving the revolver from the vertical and pushing the cylinder closed.

Lots of practice with dummy rounds is essential to learn this.

Why do I mention this? Any speedloader than doesn't support this theory is doomed to be a failure.

 

[crows]

Another thing we have in common but didn't know Vtg.

I have two I bought because I sort'a had a collection of speed loaders even though I carried an auto. I actually gave a demonstration to the chief of a revolver armed agency because none of my friends there had any speedloaders.
(I said I don't like revolvers, not that I don't know how to use one....)

I like the idea of manual chambering rather than relying on gravity.

I have one of the excellent shotgun butt cuffs. I recently saw the design made by Aker.

Would you happen to have a copy of the article that the third picture came from? I collect speed loaders and literature surrounding them.
A bit of trivia. The top right speed loader, originally manufactured by Hunt Engineering, could be purchased with a holster that held two loaders on the leading edge of the holster. I have an article by Elmer Keith from the early sixties where he discusses them.

 

[SG-688]

Would you happen to have a copy of the article that the third picture came from? I collect speed loaders and literature surrounding them.
A bit of trivia. The top right speed loader, originally manufactured by Hunt Engineering, .....

I do have that article and some others you may like. PM an email address.

Safariland sold the Hunt as the Kel-lite before marketing the Comp series.

Straying further from the OP - and we knew that we would ...
Another weird and wonderful carrier for the Matich Quick Loader that had its own brief moment. It's as heavy as it looks. It was a gift to me from our old friend -db-.

Added the Hunt ads with the holster mentioned.