Security camera recomendations

My home system is Arlo, and I've had great luck with it. Four cameras and a doorbell camera, and I'm in my third year with them. The only drawback, which would come with any system that is not hardwired for power is that I have to regularly monitor the various cameras for recharging.

I realize that the experience is different for every user . . .

Stay away from Arlo and any of their products. I am speaking from extensive experience with them.
 
They are somewhat high priced, which is OK if you get what you pay for. I have 5 of them and although they work, they work sporadically. They are wifi based and even though I have a very strong wifi network, the cameras often drop out, don't record events or record events for no apparent reason....
Thanks for the detailed info on Arlo. (But Muss Muggins' comments also taken into account.) Those kinds of problems are the very things she doesn't need!

I think her main reason for wanting wireless is the hassle of doing the wiring, rather than any functional issues. Getting power to wired cameras is no problem.

The el-cheapo Costco system they bought several years ago was a knee-jerk reaction to having their ATV stolen. (Subsequently recovered in decent shape several months later.) It kinda worked but only one of her sons seemed to be able to do anything with it. Now only one of the 4 cameras works, so it's time to replace it.

I can wire up a system for her, and make sure the wiring is robust, and running CAT5 or 6 is less hassle than the "siamese" cable my system uses.

Aside from keeping batteries charged, the main concern I have with wireless is, how/where to you store the data? She doesn't want the extra expense of cloud storage. Most of these cameras use on-board SD cards, but ideally you want a HD somewhere on your network you can access from your phone or laptop. One I was looking at last night - Reolink, I think - has an accessory hub that allows this, although as I recall it, too, only has an SD slot and is limited to 256 GB. However, if the cameras are only recording when triggered (assuming reliable triggering!), then transferring any clips of interest wouldn't likely pose any storage problem. (In comparison, I have 7 cameras recording 24/7, and a 2TB HD which gives me about a week of stored data. I'm mostly tracking critters, not criminals. But I have a sign on my gate that says the property is under video surveillance.)

I was over looking at her place yesterday and 3 or 4 cameras would be enough. One looking across the patio to the shed, one on the back of the shed, looking across to other storage areas, one looking from the house out to the road and maybe one looking off the back deck or shed towards the back of the the property towards the horse barn. Better than 2K/1080p resolution would be good for two of these as they have to cover longer distances/bigger areas, but it seems that higher-resolution cameras are not all that expensive now.

So this is a little different than a standard residential system where you're just covering the decks and front door. With2 r 3 kids and a tenant coming and going, she won't want alerts or notifications sent to her or her kids' phones, and she would only need to enable continuous recording at night or if everyone was away.

@Gamecock. Dummy cameras can be a useful deterrent since "prevention is better than a cure". And what the cameras don't deter, a 12 ga. probably will. However, up here in "sunny ways" Canuckistan, threatening an intruder with a firearm will get us in far more trouble than the criminal! Having a clear image of "people of interest"is still useful for the RCMP here, esp. if they are keeping track of a series of events.
 
10-4, oldbrownhat.

Just be prepared for the cops to ask, "Who is that?"

And, "What do you want me to do with this picture?"
 
10-4, oldbrownhat.

Just be prepared for the cops to ask, "Who is that?"

And, "What do you want me to do with this picture?"
Or hopefully, "Oh.... those two look similar to the ones who did a break-in a few blocks away." In my experience, they'll take the video clip and put it on file.

Looking at Costco's offerings, one of the 4-channel Defender wired systems might work for her. (This is on the Cdn. site, couldn't find them on US. Lorex probably similar.) 4 wired high-res. cameras and 1TB HD. Will check the specs & features more closely. No clambering up a ladder to retrieve SD cards or change batteries, internet/phone access, and local storage.
 
I run Blink outside in hard to wire areas and then Reolink wired system around most of the house. I had someone try to break in while I was gone and I watched them on the Blink while the wife called the police. Lesson learned is that when watching on the wifi cams they don't record. My Reolink wired cams caught the neighbor kid hitting my $300 mailbox and I was able to get them to buy me a new one. I could tell they had a U of L license plate when the hit my mailbox and it was a short discussion. IF is had to pick only 1 I would go wired with Reolink.

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...My Reolink wired cams caught the neighbor kid hitting my $300 mailbox and I was able to get them to buy me a new one. I could tell they had a U of L license plate when the hit my mailbox and it was a short discussion. IF is had to pick only 1 I would go wired with Reolink.
Nice catch :D He'd be one textbook short after paying for that if what my univ. prof. gf tells me about the exorbitant cost of textbooks is correct.

I've heard generally good things about Reolink so I'll check out their wired systems more closely. She only has one area that is "hard to wire" - the back gate to the property, 400 yards from the road (!) Only bears and 2-legged riff-raff woud be a concern back there. That'll get a trail camera if she's worried about it.
 
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I've been using Wyze cameras for the driveway and inside the house when we're gone. They record movement. Mine are all wireless and run from a Verizon Hotspot.

Clear pictures and night vision. At $20 per camera for inside and $30 for outside they are a good cheap way to keep and eye on things.

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This has not been my experience. If I want to look at a camera live on my phone, takes about 15 seconds to call it up, if that. I have never had to “recertify” anything, and my daughter has regularly sent me various links of fox, possum and etc for the last five months from London. I agree that the reach from the ARLO base to a camera is not as wide as I’d like, but it got better when I upgraded my WiFi. I choose to not enable alerts on my phone, but my wife and daughter stalk it constantly. I regularly have a video or two every week from them. In all fairness, I don’t use a desktop to access Arlo, so I can’t speak to your experience with that. I only use my cellphone and iPad, which I also access my
bank accounts, my email, and this forum, which by the way does not recognized https protocol. I’m good. In the words of Huckleberry Finn (I think), you pays your money and you takes your chance. I’m sad that you haven’t had the same experience. I do pay $10 or so every month, but I pay $9 for the tracker on my 83 year old mother’s car. I also pay like $50 for Sirius for three cars, and $20 for Netflix. I could go on with that list, but it gets a little embarrassing after a while. Things like this I don’t expect for free. . .

They are somewhat high priced, which is OK if you get what you pay for. I have 5 of them and although they work, they work sporadically. They are wifi based and even though I have a very strong wifi network, the cameras often drop out, don't record events or record events for no apparent reason. They are designed for use with a smart phone but have a computer app. The problem with the computer app is you have to log on to it every time you want to use it - no leaving it running for long periods of time - and you have to re-certify your computer every 14 days by entering a code sent by Arlo to your cell phone. So if something is happening that you want to watch (like you hear a car in the drive), it might take two or more minutes before you can log in, enter your code and turn on the camera. I have had a running dialog with Arlo about this idiocy for more than 6 months. My desktop is more secure than my cell phone. My desktop is password protected, never leaves my house and is accessed only by me (I won't let my dog on it because he keeps ordering stuff from Chewy.com), but Arlo maintains it must be re-certified every 14 days. Their cell phone on the other hand NEVER needs to be re-certified. It's a flaw in their program that they refuse to address.

In addition to all that, the cameras are battery operated which means you have to either keep recharging the proprietary battery or run a AC line to the camera to keep it constantly charged. Battery life is dependent on use of course. All of my cameras are wired except one that would require a major unsightly effort. That one camera has a solar powered recharge unit but I still have to remove/recharge the battery weekly in the winter when the charger won't keep it charged.

Nor is their camera firmware reliable. As noted above, sometimes the cameras won't pick up action and other times, they trigger for no apparent reason. The whole thing relies on Arlo's cloud based system, which cost a monthly/yearly fee. There is no local storage unless you manually download video to your computer/phone. Nor will their camera's work with any third party programs that I'm aware of - I wish it would!

If you want a foolproof system, hard wiring is the best way to go though it is a PITA and expensive, especially if you hire it done. Be aware that camera's must be mounted outside to work properly, especially at night. A friend mounted his inside and at night, all they record was glare off his window screens from the camera's lights. In other words, all you could see is a white screen at night.
 
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The bad thing about cameras is that lately around here, many thieves are getting more aware and informed about them. They wear plain dark hoodies, sunglasses, baggy pants, and scarfs and you can't see their face and the park their vehicle where you can't see it.
 
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I use Blink cameras to monitor my Mom's house and make sure she isn't lying on the floor dead. The ones I have plug into a USB wall adapter for power, and bluetooth to your wifi, and then you can see each one individually on your phone. They can be set for motion detection and will send an alert to your phone. They also work in the dark, measuring infrared. Blink also makes an exterior camera that works the same way, but powers from an internal replaceable battery, I think they are AA size and last about 6 months.
 
Real thieves love wifi cameras. Just Google "wifi jammer" to see why.

That was very interesting. Thanks for a tip! I found a lot of information about different security cameras in Hebrew and had to order a translation of that from https://isаccurate.com/hebrew-translation-services, as obviously that was very important. Ended up learning a lot of new things for myself, so happy i did all that research.
 
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Helped a buddy install five Blink outdoor wireless cameras and the Sync 2 module.
Then set up their iPhones and all worked well during testing.

They were installed inside his shop which has several rooms/windows/doors.

When he asked if that was all ready to go, I told him to buy an UPS and we'll plug the sync module and his ATT gateway etc, in case of lost power or a criminal shutting the mains from the outside box.
He'll put a lock on that as well.
 
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The batteries that came with the Blink outdoor cameras were
AA lithiums and Blink said they have a two year life.
I guess that would depend on how often/long they are activated.

Being a retired marine electronics tech, I checked the voltages and they were all 1.8 VDC.
I didn't do a load test. :D

Luckily I found places to mount them that do not show any of the machinery or other gear and just the windows/doors for breakins.

There are pros and cons to storage in the Blink Cloud vs storage with your own CF card or other self storage of data.

Much easier these days than 40 years ago when one of my favorite chores was figuring out and installing alarm systems on yachts.
 
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We have Vivint and I can recommend it. You make payments for your products (initial setup is not cheap), it's being monitored, you can upgrade items as you go along, and the warranty/customer service is great as well.
 
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