I haven't witnessed anything that I'd be expected to answer questions about in over 60 years. I guess I'm to poor to even pay attention. Joe
Semi Witnessed a Fatal Shooting this Afternoon
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Murphy's Law
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I grew up in Detroit. Things were so bad, when I attended high school, they would search/frisk you before they would let you in. If they found nothing on you (i.e. knife, gun, etc), they would give you a weapon, otherwise you wouldn't make it through the day! 
StrawHat
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Countrycuz
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Sorry to hear Rochester has gone downhill, used to be a decent place. I haven't been there in years, but my brother was just there weeks ago for for a Dr. appt.
Because, if someone approaches from the passenger side and starts to shoot, you have no where to go. I agree with venomballistics. I would rather sit out in the open with my windows down. If someone approached my unit, I would exit prior to them reaching me. If you are up against a wall, the only thing you can do it put the car in drive, by then it may be too late.
Even going car to car was somewhat risky depending on the area. We would usually do it in the middle of a parking lot with 360 views.
Not a Cop.
I used to do roving patrol for Colorado Springs. One night I did a check of a substation and parked in the parking lot of a restaurant backed up to a retaining wall to fill out my log before going on to my next stop.
While I was sitting there another car pulled in in such a way as to block me in. The driver jumped out of his car and ran up on my car. I was out of the car by the time he got to me and had my gun out.
It turned out that he was having a bathroom emergency and wanted directions to a public bathroom.
After that night any paperwork I had to do I went to a gated utilities facility and parked inside the fence.
I think that having my driver's door to a wall would make it harder for me to get out of the car if necessary. I wouldn't do it. I certainly wouldn't sit anywhere in my car with the engine off.
I would never sit in the parking lot and wait for my wife to shop. If I'm concerned enough to go to the store with her I'm going in.
I certainly wouldn't get out of my car to investigate the sound of gunfire. I would have left immediately.
Best way avoid punch, no be there
I used to do roving patrol for Colorado Springs. One night I did a check of a substation and parked in the parking lot of a restaurant backed up to a retaining wall to fill out my log before going on to my next stop.
While I was sitting there another car pulled in in such a way as to block me in. The driver jumped out of his car and ran up on my car. I was out of the car by the time he got to me and had my gun out.
It turned out that he was having a bathroom emergency and wanted directions to a public bathroom.
After that night any paperwork I had to do I went to a gated utilities facility and parked inside the fence.
I think that having my driver's door to a wall would make it harder for me to get out of the car if necessary. I wouldn't do it. I certainly wouldn't sit anywhere in my car with the engine off.
I would never sit in the parking lot and wait for my wife to shop. If I'm concerned enough to go to the store with her I'm going in.
I certainly wouldn't get out of my car to investigate the sound of gunfire. I would have left immediately.
Best way avoid punch, no be there
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StrawHat
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Normally, I don't play the silly "what if this happens" games.
When I was wearing a badge, I was vigilant , always aware. My vehicle was running and usually only required my left foot to slide off the brake and my right foot to hit the gas pedal to get me moving.
So, the fact that I am still alive must have just been pure dumb luck working in downtown Cleveland.
Kevin
venomballistics
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Being stuck in the car forfeits almost every advantage in an exchange of gunfire.
It's good practice
We just had an incident where a FHP trooper chasing a felon hit a semi, killing both drivers. I-95 shut down in both direction through my little town. Continuous "Breaking News" reports on all the channels. Reverse 911 calls going out advising people to avoid the area. Entrances to the interstate blocked off, and detour signs everywhere. Yet the "Nextdoor" neighborhood forum was flooded with posts from those ignorantly bliss to all of the above.
We were required to do two 15 minute engine off stops per shift to "save gas" per shift. If the Sgt spotted you with car running you got written up. This started during one of the gas crisis in the 80s and they just kept doing it. I always found somewhere out of the public eye to do it. Then they started dictating where you were to park while on your stop to maximize public view …..
This is why I gave up swimming.
We responded on a medic standby call (render first aid until paramedics get there) back in the early '90s, for a shooting in a housing project near my fire station. Our patient was the intended target of an execution. The shooter aimed at his forehead, but the victim jerked his noggin as the .25 Automatic went off, and the bullet skidded between his scalp and his skull around to his right temple. He had a heckuva hematoma on his head, and he was complaining of a headache...
In Baltimore, it was a common practice years ago for the police to go to a fire station when they needed a break for some reason...the perfect place to use the restroom, grab a cup of coffee, and sit in safety while they would write their reports or eat lunch.
Yup. Being "in the know" isn't worth ending up being in the middle of a bad situation.
Personally, when I heard the gunshot, my first reaction would probably been to get the hell out of Dodge. I might have returned a few minutes later - to see if I could render some kind of aid.
BUT, if I ain't personally involved, I probably am going to try to avoid getting personally involved.
Not my circus - not my monkeys.
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If I heard a shot while out in public, the last thing I would do is get out of my car to see what is going on. I can always read about it in the paper.
About the only way that would change is if f my wife or kid were in an area and I heard shots from there. Sorry, just about everyone else is on their own.
Me, as a civilian entering the scene for any other reason will probably just add to the chaos
About the only way that would change is if f my wife or kid were in an area and I heard shots from there. Sorry, just about everyone else is on their own.
Me, as a civilian entering the scene for any other reason will probably just add to the chaos
I was walking around the fence line at work one night and I heard three shots. It was clearly some distance away. I seem to remember them being fairly even spaced or maybe the first two close together and the third one after a second or two.
And the only thought that came to my mind was
One shot, meat.
Two shots, maybe meat.
Three shots, no meat.
I never heard anything about it on the news but I hope I was right
And the only thought that came to my mind was
One shot, meat.
Two shots, maybe meat.
Three shots, no meat.
I never heard anything about it on the news but I hope I was right
