Sheriffs being set up?

[DWFAN]

I smell a Revolution and we won't need no popcorn. I see this getting ugly. Red State National Guards are not going to try to subdue the locals. Blue States???????? No tellin. I can't see the military getting involved. Sons and daughters will not arrest their kin. I don't care who orders it.
DW

 

[PlainsDrifter]

I smell a Revolution and we won't need no popcorn. I see this getting ugly. Red State National Guards are not going to try to subdue the locals. Blue States???????? No tellin. I can't see the military getting involved. Sons and daughters will not arrest their kin. I don't care who orders it.
DW

I think this is one of the biggest dilemmas facing the Feds. Being SURE who they can count on to do THEIR bidding when the call comes.

Basically their biggest support comes from Urban areas while their staunchest foes generally are rooted in LESS urban areas.

The US Federal Government has grown FAR too large and is out of control. It was never intended to grow into what it is today. Evil people have managed to do this. Unless it is reeled in, it will destroy the nation imo.

 

[mkess]

I smell a Revolution and we won't need no popcorn. I see this getting ugly. Red State National Guards are not going to try to subdue the locals. Blue States???????? No tellin. I can't see the military getting involved. Sons and daughters will not arrest their kin. I don't care who orders it.
DW

They will send the national guard from one state to handle another state. It won't be the local boys coming for you, it will be Georgia to California, new York to Minnesota, etc. But that will only happen if they actually decide to listen to their orders instead of going against the oath they took.

 

[Vulcan Bob]

Man that old Chinese curse (May you live in interesting times) is coming home to roost on this side of the pond. I like my safe comfy life that I have but may have to give it up to defend home and hearth and my grand children's future. These are indeed interesting times!

 

[Kinman]

A recent aquaintence I've met was in the US Army and stationed down near Selma, AL when all the unpleasantries began down there when the president enforced "Marshall Law". He worked with a local sherriffs department and was there to "assist" them when it came to a racial problem. He was working with the Military Police and rode along with the local county mounties whenever there was a dispute involving even the slightest chance of a racial problem.
He told me a number of stories regarding arrests being made and told me that he had the absolute highest regard for the two deputies he worked with, both of them showing equal respect for people breaking the law, he felt there was no racial barrier and he was a man of the south himself, a true southern gentleman. I had heard the term before but had never met a southerner that fit the term the way this old gentleman does...wouldn't say **** if he had a mouthful of it.

 

[Doug M.]

Non-issue. As a general rule, state and local LE are not capable of enforcing Federal law in and of itself. That's why, for example, special legislation or other grants of authority are needed to have state/local cops enforce the Motor Carrier rules, Immigration stuff, and a ton of other things. SImilarly, Feds cannot on their own enforce state law, municipal ordinances and the like without specific authorization.

I also note that NO citation is made to any proposed federal legislation by bill # - a sign that this is not actually in progress. As for the states that are looking at letting feds enforce some state laws, proposals for which citations appear to have been given - they may have their own reasons.

This is almost certainly 100% tin foil hat.

 

[azsun3]

Doe anyone find it interesting that the Feds will sue states and sheriffs for enforcing (or trying to) immingration laws, or tellling them they do not have the power to enforce Federal immigration law, but must enforce proposed gun laws that have not been passed yet??????

So true! That is what happens when you have activist judges, politicians, and elected officials. Its no longer what is best for the nation and its people, it becomes about control of the nation and its people!

You can control the future when you control the past history. How many of our children are being taught a different version of our history? Of prior wars? How many of them view Hitler as someone the government needs to protect us against vs protecting ourselves against a government that did that to their own people! That is why we have a 2nd amendment so that we can protect ourselves from our government, but also to stand up and fight with our government if needed.

 

[sigp220.45]

Ya'll are in a tizzy over the feds, when the likelihood of new federal gun legislation is about nil.

You need to watch your state houses. All the really bad stuff is coming from them - do you suppose all these Sheriffs and staties are going to refuse to enforce STATE law?

Keep worrying about the feds while your neighbors sell you out.

 

[Fishslayer]

They can have ours...

 

[Sprefix]

One little detail........

I smell a Revolution and we won't need no popcorn. I see this getting ugly. Red State National Guards are not going to try to subdue the locals. Blue States???????? No tellin. I can't see the military getting involved. Sons and daughters will not arrest their kin. I don't care who orders it.
DW

Lets not forget about the illegals on American soil that would love to take up arms against American Patriots that don't want to give the keys to the country away......It may not be brothers, sons or daughters, but there will be plenty to show us the business end of the fast and the furious. God bless us all.........Sorry, Just calling it as I see it.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

That is so true. Sadly most people believe that slavery was the main issue of the Civil War, but it was States Rights.

That's a racist bigoted comment-you're gonna get it now

 

[Damn Yankee]

Lincoln didn't care about Slavery.

Lincoln-Tax-War

 

[hayesxb]

Ya'll are in a tizzy over the feds, when the likelihood of new federal gun legislation is about nil.

You need to watch your state houses. All the really bad stuff is coming from them - do you suppose all these Sheriffs and staties are going to refuse to enforce STATE law?

Keep worrying about the feds while your neighbors sell you out.

Colorado Sheriffs have already said they will not enforce legislation just signed in.

 

[Alnamvet68]

Colorado Sheriffs have already said they will not enforce legislation just signed in.[/QUOTE]

Uh oh...we know what's comin' next; Hellfire toting MQ-9 Reapers.

 

[amazingflapjack]

Diamond Back's post caused me to think of a book I am currently about half way through that seems to take this whole idea another step up. And it is an eye opener, to me at least, in regard to the gov's ability to track us. The book is by Brad Thor: "Black List."

 

[Fishslayer]

And it is an eye opener, to me at least, in regard to the gov's ability to track us. The book is by Brad Thor: "Black List."

Ya ever wonder how those Google ads just seem to know exactly what you've been shopping for/looking at?

 

[Steve in Vermont]

Ya'll are in a tizzy over the feds, when the likelihood of new federal gun legislation is about nil.

You need to watch your state houses. All the really bad stuff is coming from them - do you suppose all these Sheriffs and staties are going to refuse to enforce STATE law?

Keep worrying about the feds while your neighbors sell you out.

Couldn't have said it better myself. CT and NY are just the first. As soon as it becomes obvious nothing will happen at the Federal level these folks will move into the states, picking the "low fruit" first. The entire issue of gun rights is just beginning so bookmark your legislature on your computer and watch for anything to do with gun control.

 

[beach elvis]

Hurts me to my heart to see the leaders of the greatest nation in world history engaging in selective enforcement of The Constitution.
Never thought I'd live to see the day...


Just hurts me to my heart.

 

[ladder13]

Couldn't have said it better myself. CT and NY are just the first. As soon as it becomes obvious nothing will happen at the Federal level these folks will move into the states, picking the "low fruit" first. The entire issue of gun rights is just beginning so bookmark your legislature on your computer and watch for anything to do with gun control.

Add Colorado. Anyone who thinks this isn't coming their way, better think again.

 

[sigp220.45]

Colorado Sheriffs have already said they will not enforce legislation just signed in.

16 of 64 said they will "speak out against" new laws. The article seems unclear as to if they are against new federal laws that will never come, or the new state law going on the books.

We'll see how many actually tell their deputies not to enforce Colorado state law.

The other 48 seem OK with it.

16 Colorado sheriffs to speak against more gun control as Obama promotes federal legislation - The Washington Post

 

[M29since14]

The other 48, or at least some of them, may not be OK with it at all but may just be taking Steve's approach of not goading the feds. Who is to say?

 

[Damn Yankee]

If the Sheriffs are not to enforce Emigration laws why are they suppose to enforce Federal Gun laws?

 

[Alnamvet68]

If the Sheriffs are not to enforce Emigration laws why are they suppose to enforce Federal Gun laws?

I was thinking the same thing...Arizona comes to mind. Selective and politically expedient enforcement.

 

[keith44spl]

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We'll see how many actually tell their deputies not to enforce Colorado state law.

What Sheriff in his right mind is gonna enforce an unpopular statute with any

vim and vigor that might interfere with a re-election campaign, I ask ya?






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[Alnamvet68]

What Sheriff in his right mind is gonna enforce an unpopular statute with any

vim and vigor that might interfere with a re-election campaign, I ask ya?






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None! Any LEO worth his weight will know when to "look the other way"; it's done all the time, and I've been guilty of ignoring "things" that were once considered normal, and somehow have found their way into some billion page criminal code book.

 

[keith44spl]

None! Any LEO worth his weight will know when to "look the other way"; it's done all the time, and I've been guilty of ignoring "things" that were once considered normal, and somehow have found their way into some billion page criminal code book.

And That's The Way It Is,

When I was working...Ya didn't slow down on a call to stop and check someone's mag capacity or
check that rifle he's coyote hunting with has a bayonet lug.

There's lots more important work to be done, than trying to
stir up trouble for the boss (Sheriff) with some un enforceable statues.


Besides....Most DAs are busy with serious crimes and don't have time or manpower to prosecute these type of nuisance cases.


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[Fishslayer]

When I was working...Ya didn't slow down on a call to stop and check someone's mag capacity or
check that rifle he's coyote hunting with has a bayonet lug.

I'm still fairly new at this but I go to the range quite a bit and I've yet to see anybody checking magazines. I've heard of it on public land though.

 

[keith44spl]

I'm still fairly new at this but I go to the range quite a bit and I've yet to see anybody checking magazines. I've heard of it on public land though.

Kinda a bit of drift...

But, I think them boys with the squirrel patrol are the ones checking cartridge and shot shell capacity.....


When I was working closely with one Sheriff's Dept., they had their hands full with
serious felonies, no time for splittin hairs on the small stuff.



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