Shield 45 EDC Safety model or NO SAFETY?

[fallhunter]

I was joking around about putting epoxy on the trigger on the M&P. However, look at the Sig Sauer P320. They have no manual thumb safety, nor do they have a safety on the trigger itself. They make a subcompact model as well, which makes for a fantastic carry piece. Light like a Shield, but double stack, and not much wider.

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[seagullplayer]

My shield has a thumb safety. Its my EDC, I like it that way.
For me operating the safety is as automatic as pulling the trigger.

If I was buying new and was unsure if I wanted it, I would buy with. You can always choose to not use it.

 

[N4KVE]

That's like saying you are going to buy a F-150 pick up truck, but you want people's opinion whether it should be black, or white in color. Get which ever version YOU are comfortable with. It doesn't matter what other people like. What matters is what YOU like. Mine has no safety by the way. GARY

 

[seagullplayer]

That's like saying you are going to buy a F-150 pick up truck, but you want people's opinion whether it should be black, or white in color. Get which ever version YOU are comfortable with. It doesn't matter what other people like. What matters is what YOU like. Mine has no safety by the way. GARY

Its hard to keep a white truck clean...

Its the internet, folks are bound to tell you what they think. Might as well ask up front.

 

[Dave Nowlin]

Its hard to keep a white truck clean...

Its the internet, folks are bound to tell you what they think. Might as well ask up front.

You must not have ever had a black vehicle if you say it's hard to keep a white vehicle clean. I've had black, never again. My wife and I both have white vehicles actually they don't show dirt nearly as bad as many other colors.

 

[N4KVE]

Yeah, a black vehicle that's dirty really shows it, but a white vehicle that's dirty just looks off white, or beige.

 

[seagullplayer]

Thanks guys! Points are easier to make when everyone helps. lol

 

[FLS&W]

My 9mm Shield has a safety. My 45 Shield does not. I carry the 9mm with the safety off but I can flick the safety off if I ever have it on.

 

[PSC617]

Have it, never use it, and not losing sleep over it.


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[Horn]

Most LE Officers

My LGS clerk says 45 Shields with a TS are in high demand and hard to find in the supply chain, vs. non-TS models that are plentiful and cheap, $384 + tax being their price when they have them. Just one anecdotal qualitative data point. S&W would never reveal but it would be interesting to know the production numbers of TS and non-TS Shields.

Its no secret. Most police officers that carried the FS S&W pistol preferred one with no manual safety. For nearly a hundred years LE (city to FBI) carried revolvers. The double action trigger was the safety.
Today, a semi-auto without the manual safety is a double action
trigger___ that's the safety.
When the perp is pointing a weapon at you or firing all that you do, regardless of all of that "training"___you point and pull the trigger!
Been there.
Poli Viejo

 

[Mountain Walker]

Your Opinions please, I'm leaning to NO SAFETY VERSION.

The purpose of the Thumb Safety(TS) is to reduce incidents of accidental discharges during day to day gun handling. We are hopefully all professionally trained in proper handling technique and will always keep our finger clear of the trigger guard until sights are on target and we intend to fire. In the perfect world the TS is an additional safety. In the industrial world, additional safeties are used when performing maintenance on potentially dangerous equipment. Insurance companies demand this because they recognize people will make mistakes and accidents are expensive.

When I attended Gunsite, we started practice of the draw slowly and increased speed only after everything was mastered. During the draw, the thumb safety(TS) does not come off until the sights are coming up on target. Thus the TS provides and extra layer of safety in addition to finger control. Nothing is lost using a TS, if the operator is properly trained, motor memory will make it reliable with time and practice.

IMO a TS on a striker weapon will work just as well as it does on a 1911. There is a notion which is quite prevalent which states that it is wrong to have a TS on a striker gun. I think that Glock did such a good job in selling their pistol that it became ingrained that strikers should never have a TS. Manufactures are now changing and offering, I think it is a good idea.

 

[jstanfield103]

I have seen this beat to death on this site and several other's.
I personally (and it is a personal thing) have safeties on all but one of my M&P's. I train with them and on my Bodyguard and Shield's I pocket carry without a holster. For my FS M&P's I do not want to feel for them in the dark on the night stand without the safety. Plus I would not want to be startled by my Wife and or Children including Grandchildren in the dark and not have a safety to swipe before I new who it was. I would rather be shot instead, I will give that less than second up to swipe the safety.

 

[JosephR]

I got the Shield 45 with the safety. Reason, they did not have a non - thumb safety in stock... I could not wait. I am like a kid in the candy store.

Same here. I had a Taurus PT145 Millennium I wanted to get rid of - I never carried it (too heavy and bulky) and I didn't want to mess with the Taurus recall. They gave me a good deal, but the TS was all they had. My other two CCWs are Kel-Tecs - no safety on either - so I just leave it off. No big deal.

 

[Don~Z~]

no safety on mine

I bought the no thumb safety shield 45, no problems yet, its a personal preference, no right or wrong in my opinion, keep a level head and train a lot with whatever piece that you buy!

 

[fdw]

For what it's worth, if I was buying one... and I am considering one.

It would not have a safety.

 

[JohnSW]

A recent example of someone who could have benefited from a safety:

"MECOSTA COUNTY, MI -- A 23-year-old woman accidentally shot herself in the hip while holstering a handgun in a Walmart parking lot in Big Rapids."

Woman accidentally shoots self while holstering gun in Walmart parking lot | MLive.com

 

[buckshotshorty]

Mine has a thumb safety and now that I am used to switching off the safety between rounds at the range, it is a part of my shooting regiment.

When your gun has a safety you always have the option of switching it off and ignoring it....you have no option if you have no safety. I ve grown to like having a safety particularly when holstering and unholstering.

 

[GKC]

I didn't care for the thumb safeties on the full size and compact M&Ps that I had because they were an extended lever that felt mushy. The thumb safeties on the Shields are flat and have a very definite action.

When my LGS finally got a Shield .45 in stock, it had a thumb safety. After checking the action, I bought it. I'm glad I did, because it has a very positive and firm click on and off, and I have no concerns about engaging or disengaging it accidentally. I will train to disengage it, and I will use it. While I've owned a lot of semi-autos in the past, some with and some without a thumb safety, for a while now my only handgun has been a SD9VE...which doesn't have a safety but does have a heavier trigger. With the trigger pull on the Shield .45 (which is very, very nice IMO) I'm glad to have a thumb safety.

 

[fallhunter]

No safety. Gun would be worthless to me with a safety.

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[fallhunter]

A recent example of someone who could have benefited from a safety:

"MECOSTA COUNTY, MI -- A 23-year-old woman accidentally shot herself in the hip while holstering a handgun in a Walmart parking lot in Big Rapids."

Woman accidentally shoots self while holstering gun in Walmart parking lot | MLive.com

Incompetent individual here.

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