Shield 9mm for CCW class?

The CCW class I attended here in Mass was 8 hours of classroom instruction (6 students), then one at a time to the range with 2 instructors behind each person. We couldn't bring our own firearms. It wasn't as much about accuracy as about safe handling of the firearm. A lot of time was spent in discussing how not to accept a firearm unless it had been demonstrated to be unloaded and could be verified to be unloaded by each student. Then proper loading of the mag, inserting and putting into battery, while keeping the barrel pointed in a safe direction. Each student had to do all this with a semi-auto .22 and a semi-auto .45. The instructors worked with each student until everyone could do this safely. It was time-consuming but we all learned from the mistakes of the others.
Hitting a 1 foot square target at 3 yds was all that was required.
 
My personal opinion is a .22 should not be allowed for a CCW test as very few if any of the students are actually going to carry one. You should take the test with a gun you are going to carry. When I took my CCW qualification there were several using .22 target pistols with red dots sights. I shot a 5" 1911 .45 with 230 ball ammo.
 
My personal opinion is a .22 should not be allowed for a CCW test as very few if any of the students are actually going to carry one. You should take the test with a gun you are going to carry. When I took my CCW qualification there were several using .22 target pistols with red dots sights. I shot a 5" 1911 .45 with 230 ball ammo.
I too first qualified with a 1911 and generally out shoot everyone there. However, you have to ask yourself, "What is the purpose of the shooting portion of the class?"

CA law does not require a shooting qualification. It only requires a class on gun safety and the law concerning using deadly force. When I teach my class, I don't care what gun they use. I do care that they demonstrate competency, but most of all, safety. If they can safely send the rounds down range, and keep them on the target, they qualify.

Remember, most classes of this nature are not teaching marksmanship. If you want to learn marksmanship, I have other classes. There simply isn't enough time in the day to teach quality marksmanship and gun safety and the law. My goal is to give my students enough encouragement that they will seek out more training on their own. I don't care where they get that training and I will gladly direct them to any one of several good instructors near me; I just hope they get it.

So, I have no issue with using a rented .22LR for this class. Save the real gun for real training on using it.
 
When I took my CPL class (with 50 others) the instructor allowed nothing smaller than 38 special for the shooting portion.
 
The allowable caliber and type are generally different - depends on the state.
 
In Florida it was one shot from 38 special, aiming in general direction of the target - that's all that required.
 
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I understand these classes are not intended for marksmanship of a gun, but you SHOULD at least be familiar with a basic revolver and semi auto pistol to carry, let alone take the class. It's scary seeing people like that in the class. I may have never owned a semi auto, but did have a small .32 revolver, have shot many 9mm M&P's, .40's, AR's. Have a good Thanksgiving everyone, and be safe.
 
Well I completed my CCW course today. I was the first one there this morning at 7:20am, the guy holds the course at his house, the private range is down the street. Since I got there early, I talked to him about my situation and concern having a new, never yet fired gun. He said to use it, I would be fine. .....

I hate always being right. It is a burden that I must carry with dignity.
 
In Florida it was one shot from 38 special, aiming in general direction of the target - that's all that required.
Then your instructor was not following the law. Here are the training requirements for Florida: Acceptable Training Documentation / Concealed Weapon License / Licensing / Divisions & Offices / Home - Florida Department of Agriculture & Consumer Services While there are many different forms of training they will accept, including a DD 214, the one thing all those trainings have in common is shooting far more than one shot.

I have heard of instructors, who are supposedly certified by the NRA, teaching the NRA Basic Pistol Course in half an hour. Anyone who's done that is a fraud and should have their credentials removed.

That's enough about that. The bottom line is, any training acceptable to the state of Florida will require more than one shot. Instructors that administer training courses like you describe make us all look bad. And, no, one shot from a .38SPL does not meet the Florida requirement.
 
That is my target from yesterday at my ccw class. 30 rounds total.

What is the waiting period for your county? I'm in Davidson and it only took the 45 days .My friend is in Guilford county and his took over 100 days.
 
All depends on sheriff's dept. It can take a month, or 6 months. I still have to go to the sheriff's dept and turn in application.
 
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