Shipping date for a 1905 HE M&P?

[SouthNarc]

Just purchased a 1905 Hand Ejector M&P 6" (my first) and I have a serial number of 280219. Any idea of a shipping date by the brain trust?

Thanks!

 

[Frailer]

1905s with serial numbers on each side of yours shipped in 1917, so I'd say that's a safe bet.

 

[JP@AK]

Should be somewhere around 1918 (maybe 1917). The last patent date on the barrel should be December 29, 1914.

 

[SouthNarc]

Thank you gentlemen I'll post some pics once I get it in hand.

 

[glowe]

Thank you gentlemen I'll post some pics once I get it in hand.

Is there a S&W logo on the sideplate?

 

[SouthNarc]

Is there a S&W logo on the sideplate?

No sir. No logo on either side.

 

[SouthNarc]

Photos from the seller not ones I've taken. Won't have the gun until next week.

 

[Wiregrassguy]

That's beautiful! I think 1919 since there is no trademark stamp.

 

[JP@AK]

I think 1919 since there is no trademark stamp.

Guy. Perhaps you are right, but my recollection was that the monogram disappeared during or immediately after the war. Wouldn't a 1918 shipment be sans monogram also? I don't own any between 1916 and 1920, so I can't look. Help me out here, please.

That's beautiful!

I certainly agree with this part of your post!

 

[Retired W4]

Guy. Perhaps you are right, but my recollection was that the monogram disappeared during or immediately after the war. Wouldn't a 1918 shipment be sans monogram also? I don't own any between 1916 and 1920, so I can't look. Help me out here, please.


I certainly agree with this part of your post!

Time to check that right stock panel for a serial number. Beautiful example!

 

[SouthNarc]

Time to check that right stock panel for a serial number. Beautiful example!

I'll remove the stocks and check next week when I have it in hand. Is that number stamped or written in pencil? What am I looking for sir?

 

[Retired W4]

I'll remove the stocks and check next week when I have it in hand. Is that number stamped or written in pencil? What am I looking for sir?

I don't have that answer. If it is in pencil you might have to shine a bright light on a sharp angle to see it The old graphite gets worn down.

 

[JP@AK]

Is that number stamped or written in pencil? What am I looking for sir?

At that time, it would be written with a pencil. It might be hard to see. Shine a bright light on it at an angle. That's your best chance of seeing it.

 

[glowe]

No sir. No logo on either side.

I have a few between 1916 and 1920 and one near the OP's, 281,XXX that shipped in August, 1917. Along with the other's I have seen it appears that the no logos ran from 1917 to mid-1920 (K frame - sn 255,000-338,000).

 

[JP@AK]

Along with the other's I have seen it appears that the no logos ran from 1917 to mid-1920 (K frame - sn 255,000-338,000).

That's what I thought too. Thanks, Gary.

 

[Wiregrassguy]

my recollection was that the monogram disappeared during or immediately after the war. Wouldn't a 1918 shipment be sans monogram also?

Jack, to my knowledge military Model 1917's never had a monogram. Their production started in December 1917. The government seized control of production on Sept. 13, 1918 and maintained control until January 1919. My assumption is that is when production of other models were stopped which also stopped the stamping of monograms on all S&W revolvers. So, it is possible an M&P in the 280K serial range could have shipped in 1918. I have seen at least one in the 288K range shipping in April 1918 and several in the 290K range in January 1919. But, I don't know if they had the monogram stamp or not. My presumption is the Jan. 1919 guns did not.

 

[SouthNarc]

Okay I got this one in hand (with some others) and I'm really happy with my score. My photos taken today in a couple of different light settings and backgrounds.

 

[SouthNarc]

The color case hardening on the hammer and trigger are fairly brilliant and stunning for a gun over a hundred years old.

 

[SouthNarc]

More photos in profile

 

[SouthNarc]

I don't have that answer. If it is in pencil you might have to shine a bright light on a sharp angle to see it The old graphite gets worn down.

Just so you know…

Following your instructions and then seeing this pic was like when Indy found the location of the Arc with the medallion, angle of the sun, and staff of Ra.

Pretty durn cool.