G-Mac;141149115 Guess who's going to be welding up his own new flat-bed? :)[/QUOTE said:
Shortages of stuff you wouldn't think of....
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Why do you think only people "working for slave wages" are affected by this. My dentist definitely doesn't work for slave wages, nor does his staff. He has had practically no turnover in 20 years.
Last year he had to close is practice for several months. All of his staff went on unemployment plus got $600.00/week on top of that.
When he was finally able to re open, he called his staff back. All but one eagerly returned to work. That one told him that she was going to stay on unemployment because with the $600.00 a week bonus she was taking home more money.
He told her that was great, but when that ran out in a few months, there would be no job for her because he needed to fill every position due to the pent up demand.
I've known him literally all of his life and so I know more than a typical patient would. I know how well he treats his staff, including taking them to conferences as a group and things like that. They earn their money, but it's not "slave wages" by any normal definition.
I think you're making a lot of bad assumptions here.
Also, jobs at fast food places are starter jobs, not meant to be careers.
Last year he had to close is practice for several months. All of his staff went on unemployment plus got $600.00/week on top of that.
When he was finally able to re open, he called his staff back. All but one eagerly returned to work. That one told him that she was going to stay on unemployment because with the $600.00 a week bonus she was taking home more money.
He told her that was great, but when that ran out in a few months, there would be no job for her because he needed to fill every position due to the pent up demand.
I've known him literally all of his life and so I know more than a typical patient would. I know how well he treats his staff, including taking them to conferences as a group and things like that. They earn their money, but it's not "slave wages" by any normal definition.
I think you're making a lot of bad assumptions here.
Also, jobs at fast food places are starter jobs, not meant to be careers.
Heard the same thing up here...................... got the last electric pressure washer...... a month ago... dealer has no idea when he will get more of "anything"
gregintenn
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You know what I haven't seen any shortages in? Politicians.
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There is a small firearms manufacturing plant not to far from where I live. They build higher end target shotguns. I was over there a couple weeks ago and when talking to the plant manager found out they cannot get the steel they need to produce any guns at all. They took all there in-stock steel and made small parts and trigger groups but now they are completely out of material.
When asked he said that they have no idea when they will be able to get the steel they need.
When asked he said that they have no idea when they will be able to get the steel they need.
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My wife came back from shopping and said there's a bra shortage.
No Dewalt ROS palm sanders here. Mine at ~20 years old has seen better days, but I couldn't find a replacement anywhere in this area in a brick & mortar store.
LVSteve
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The lack of drivers in the logistics chain is a major pain. Look on the Lowe's or Home Depot website for a lot of things and it has to be ordered in. I cannot get my preferred lawn bug treatment in town any more. Both companies report having tons of the stuff, but none of it is here.
Its a little late to be complaining now. It only takes a room temperature IQ to know all of this was coming. So wear your mask, follow the rules, never question said rules, and take comfort in knowing that you have been protected by people that know whats best for you.
Sistema1927
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Those pesky laws of economics have a tendency to bite you in the butt if they aren't followed.
Law #1: There is no such thing as a free lunch.
Law #2: There is always a delicate dance between supply and demand.
Law #1: There is no such thing as a free lunch.
Law #2: There is always a delicate dance between supply and demand.
LVSteve
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So, are we short of chickens
The big chicken farms in Texas were wiped out in the big freeze, so I'm guessing yes.
LVSteve
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...when you run most businesses on the knife edge of cash flow using the "just in time" methodology. Toyota learned their lesson when the Fukushima earthquake wiped out their chip supplier. Ever since they have been stockpiling, that's why they can build complete trucks while Ford are filling up car parks with partly built trucks to the degree you can see them from space.
**Apologies for any distress caused to those with business degrees for using the word "stockpiling" without the required FTC/CoC warning. I almost used the word "warehouse", but I didn't want to be really offensive.**
Toyota can build them, but for the ones made in other countries, they can't get them here.
Tacomas are made in Mexico and shipped here by ship. The ones coming into Long Beach are slow in getting here because the terminal is jammed. I don't know if they all come in by Long Beach, but it doesn't matter because every US POE is back logged.
As a result, I could trade my 2019 in for more than I paid about a year ago. Of course, I wouldn't be able to find a replacement.
A friend of mine ordered a refrigerator last fall. Stainless Steel is the popular color currently and since his wife wanted white, it was a special order.
When he last talked to the salesman early last month, the salesman said they had no idea when it might show up and suggested looking for an alternative brand.
Tacomas are made in Mexico and shipped here by ship. The ones coming into Long Beach are slow in getting here because the terminal is jammed. I don't know if they all come in by Long Beach, but it doesn't matter because every US POE is back logged.
As a result, I could trade my 2019 in for more than I paid about a year ago. Of course, I wouldn't be able to find a replacement.
A friend of mine ordered a refrigerator last fall. Stainless Steel is the popular color currently and since his wife wanted white, it was a special order.
When he last talked to the salesman early last month, the salesman said they had no idea when it might show up and suggested looking for an alternative brand.
...when you run most businesses on the knife edge of cash flow using the "just in time" methodology. Toyota learned their lesson when the Fukushima earthquake wiped out their chip supplier. Ever since they have been stockpiling, that's why they can build complete trucks while Ford are filling up car parks with partly built trucks to the degree you can see them from space.
**Apologies for any distress caused to those with business degrees for using the word "stockpiling" without the required FTC/CoC warning. I almost used the word "warehouse", but I didn't want to be really offensive.**
CAJUNLAWYER
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That could be a good thing........
CAJUNLAWYER
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Shortage of everything except ^*&(ing lawyers 
I think people are beginning to understand that it might be a bad thing to be getting some much of out stiff from China. Hell, If I were China I'd crop dust the next virus over the entire counrty and then stop all exports-wait a year and then step in and those of us left will all be speaking mandarin in 6 months
I think people are beginning to understand that it might be a bad thing to be getting some much of out stiff from China. Hell, If I were China I'd crop dust the next virus over the entire counrty and then stop all exports-wait a year and then step in and those of us left will all be speaking mandarin in 6 months
Be careful what you wish forShortage of everything except ^*&(ing lawyers
I think people are beginning to understand that it might be a bad thing to be getting some much of out stiff from China. Hell, If I were China I'd crop dust the next virus over the entire counrty and then stop all exports-wait a year and then step in and those of us left will all be speaking mandarin in 6 months
We have become very dependent on China and I'm sure they know it...I have noticed on Amazon that more and more often, items with a good price are shown as "Shipped from China." No thank you.(Even if that's where they come from originally.)
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I went to Winn Dixie Saturday and they're selling chicken wings for BOGO. I doubt they would give them away if there was a shortage.Or the effluent therefrom...
So, are we short of chickens
MTC(SS)Ret
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All the stuff that is imported is being held up at the ports because they don't have the work force to unload the containers, put them on trucks or trains, and move them to distribution centers. No one wants to work because they are receiving state and federal unemployment benefits that are more than their normal paycheck.
Companies in my area are paying people $50-100 just to fill out an application.
They are having to pay truck drivers much more than last year to stay out on the road moving freight because life on the road sucks with all the covid restrictions they have been dealing with for the last year.
Companies in my area are paying people $50-100 just to fill out an application.
They are having to pay truck drivers much more than last year to stay out on the road moving freight because life on the road sucks with all the covid restrictions they have been dealing with for the last year.
The pullet predicament according to Forbes:
From Chicken Wings To Mother's Day Flowers, Here Are The Shortages You Need To Know About—Plus A Few Gluts
From Chicken Wings To Mother's Day Flowers, Here Are The Shortages You Need To Know About—Plus A Few Gluts
oddshooter
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I counted 28 giant container ships anchored off San Pedro/Long Beach.
That costs millions per day, but they can't get them docked and unloaded.
No one seems to know why.
That costs millions per day, but they can't get them docked and unloaded.
No one seems to know why.
And your point is?
My son works in management for a large company that runs several terminals, including one in Long Beach. He knows why and that it's going to be months before the problem is solved.
They can't get full containers out of the yards at the terminals fast enough. Not enough truck drivers, not enough rail capacity.
The yards are also full of empty containers that have to go back to wherever to be refilled and then brought back to the US or wherever.
The empties can't go back on the ships because the ships haven't been unloaded yet.
So, the ships sit out in harbors waiting their turn. As you point out, that's expensive. It also means things imported to the US are delayed by weeks or even months.
It's going to get worse in the US southeast because of the pipeline attack. Truck stops are running out of fuel so the trucks can't move.
They can't get full containers out of the yards at the terminals fast enough. Not enough truck drivers, not enough rail capacity.
The yards are also full of empty containers that have to go back to wherever to be refilled and then brought back to the US or wherever.
The empties can't go back on the ships because the ships haven't been unloaded yet.
So, the ships sit out in harbors waiting their turn. As you point out, that's expensive. It also means things imported to the US are delayed by weeks or even months.
It's going to get worse in the US southeast because of the pipeline attack. Truck stops are running out of fuel so the trucks can't move.
Sistema1927
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You would think that if a determined enemy wanted to destroy the US economy that they couldn't do much better than to release a virus into the world.
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Citizens arrest, citizens arrest,,,,,,,,,
I had been zipping my own hair for the past year, #2 all the way, nice not to have the bushy hair I once had and fussed over. 
Needed a little help around the ears and my eyebrows though.
My man Kenneth finally came back to Great Clips after a year away. He has some health issues so I understand. Last month he was vaccinated finally, with the "all come and get it" folks even though he should have gone with the first group.
After a bunch of whazz up and great to see youzz, we get to talking. "Mr Mike, I have to admit that unemployment was great, I was getting tons of money to just sit home".
Me, "why did you come back then?"
Kenneth, " they took me off unemployment because I was offered my job back".
Me, "how'd they find out?"
Kenneth, " somehow they know, "they" know everything". We yucked that up.
OK, so how's it going says I.
Kenneth, "the owner is giving me $5 more an hour"
Me, "great, glad to have you back, my eyebrows really needed you"
. I gave him a huge tip.
Haircuts are up 15% from a year ago.
Expect inflation everywhere.
Consumer price index April 2021:
Needed a little help around the ears and my eyebrows though.
My man Kenneth finally came back to Great Clips after a year away. He has some health issues so I understand. Last month he was vaccinated finally, with the "all come and get it" folks even though he should have gone with the first group.
After a bunch of whazz up and great to see youzz, we get to talking. "Mr Mike, I have to admit that unemployment was great, I was getting tons of money to just sit home".
Me, "why did you come back then?"
Kenneth, " they took me off unemployment because I was offered my job back".
Me, "how'd they find out?"
Kenneth, " somehow they know, "they" know everything". We yucked that up.
OK, so how's it going says I.
Kenneth, "the owner is giving me $5 more an hour"
Me, "great, glad to have you back, my eyebrows really needed you"
. I gave him a huge tip.Haircuts are up 15% from a year ago.
Expect inflation everywhere.
Consumer price index April 2021:
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Again yesterday at the gym.
What's up Gil?
Another day says Gil.
Gil, "went to Roadhouse for lunch the other day".
Me, "man, I can never get in there, it's always packed".
Gil, "went the last Thursday @3, no cars in the lot, I'm thinking this is good. I get to the front and ask for a table for two. The girl tells me a 30 minute wait. Huh, no cars in the lot?"
Me, "so what was the issue?"
Gil, "they told me they were short staffed and can't get people to come in for even an interview"
What's up Gil?
Another day says Gil.
Gil, "went to Roadhouse for lunch the other day".
Me, "man, I can never get in there, it's always packed".
Gil, "went the last Thursday @3, no cars in the lot, I'm thinking this is good. I get to the front and ask for a table for two. The girl tells me a 30 minute wait.
Huh, no cars in the lot?"Me, "so what was the issue?"
Gil, "they told me they were short staffed and can't get people to come in for even an interview"
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