Shotguns and Bayonets?

[JohnHL]

I recently picked up a LNIB Mossberg 590 from a Forum Member (Thanks, Bob!), and it has a bayonet lug.

I know old combat shotguns were issued with bayonets and training, but the Mossberg 590 is a modern gun.

So my question: Is there still any utility for a bayonet on a shotgun and does the military still train with them?

John?

 

[robvious]

Utility? what has that got to do with it.. lol

 

[dobegrant]

That is a cool shotgun setup

 

[kev74]

I've got a 20 gauge Mossberg 500 and a bayonet that a keep having ideas of putting together.

I also made a clown horn with a picitaney mount that I currently have on an AR, so I might not be the guy to listen to here.

 

[Buford57]

It you are bird hunting without a dog it saves bending over for retrieves.

 

[wood714]

I scored one of the Remington 870 ONG shotguns when they showed up a few years ago.

Best deal I ever got on a gun.

 

[MelvinWalker]

Trench gun bayonets are pretty cool....Not as cool as this though:

 

[Glenn R. McMannly]

Here is my Model Five-Ninety equipped the bayonet:



It is my primary housing piece and yes, I keep the bayonet fixed at all times.

Having relatives who fought in the Pacific during the 2nd War, I know the utility of a good blade mounted trench sweeper.

I keep the piece stocked with #2 steel swan shot for domestic use. Less penetration and all the power you need and more.

 

[Shrek Of The Arctic]

I'd love to get one of the bayonet lugs for an 870, but they seem scarce and scattered.

I'm not normally a Mossberg fan, but the 590 A1 with a heat shield, bayonet lug, and wood furniture is almost irresistible to me.

 

[Kanewpadle]

I thought about it. But I don't ever intend on letting a bad guy get that close to me.

 

[JohnHL]

I fitted an M9 bayonet to my M590.

If anyone is ever impaled on that rig, it will probably take several rounds of 12 gauge to blow the bad actor off of that saw back blade.

Good thing the 590 has an extended magazine!

John

 

[Glenn R. McMannly]

I fitted an M9 bayonet to my M590.

If anyone is ever impaled on that rig, it will probably take several rounds of 12 gauge to blow the bad actor off of that saw back blade.

Good thing the 590 has an extended magazine!

John

Nine round of 00 is nothing to sneeze at.

 

[rockquarry]

Trench gun bayonets are pretty cool....Not as cool as this though:

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About as useful as a bayonet.

 

[old tanker]

Many eons ago MPs had chromed M1917 bayonets for the Model 12 and Model 1897 shotguns. The command, "Fix, Bayonets," and the glinting of 16 inches of cold steel seemed to unnerve unruly mobs. Apparently the thought of being run through was more unsettling than the prospect of being shot.

 

[Dave Haynes]

Many eons ago MPs had chromed M1917 bayonets for the Model 12 and Model 1897 shotguns. The command, "Fix, Bayonets," and the glinting of 16 inches of cold steel seemed to unnerve unruly mobs. Apparently the thought of being run through was more unsettling than the prospect of being shot.

During the Korean war there was an instance where the Chinese refused to move off a very valuable hill. The Army used up many companies and the Chinese stayed put. The last unit was told to "Fix Bayonets" and they started up the hill, the Chinese saw these big Americans with M1s and those blades and ran off the hill without firing a shot.

 

[jdlii]

I was about 8 years old with my mother at the downtown First National Bank in Jackson, TN. She was making a deposit when the Wells Fargo Armored car arrived and two guards entered the bank. One was rolling a dolly stacked with loaded cloth bank bags full of various forms of cash and the other guard was carrying a 1927A1 Thompson with a drum magazine. It was an attention getter!

I had the same feeling when I first saw a Winchester Model 12 Trench gun with a mounted 1917 Enfield bayonet. Utility is one aspect intimidation is another. The Enfield with its bayonet affixed is a formidable weapon as displayed in the movie The Lost Battalion.

If I could find a bayonet mount for my 870 I would strongly consider acquiring that accessory.

 

[rockquarry]

I was about 8 years old with my mother at the downtown First National Bank in Jackson, TN. She was making a deposit when the Wells Fargo Armored car arrived and two guards entered the bank. One was rolling a dolly stacked with loaded cloth bank bags full of various forms of cash and the other guard was carrying a 1927A1 Thompson with a drum magazine. It was an attention getter!

I had the same feeling when I first saw a Winchester Model 12 Trench gun with a mounted 1917 Enfield bayonet. Utility is one aspect intimidation is another. The Enfield with its bayonet affixed is a formidable weapon as displayed in the movie The Lost Battalion.

If I could find a bayonet mount for my 870 I would strongly consider acquiring that accessory.

Looks like it would make for a very unwieldy piece rather than something useful. Other than pure cosmetic value, what purpose would a bayonet serve? I'm curious; maybe I've missed something here.

 

[inspcalahan]

It's not really a "should I" but, more of a "could I" type thing. There's no practical purpose other than it's kinda cool for photo op's and maybe leaning next to the door when the Witness's come a knocking...



It also makes a good companion to the sidearm for much more convenient daily slicing tasks....

 

[dusty3030]

The only time we were compelled to fix bayonets on the 590 was in March of 2020 in defense of our supply cache.

 

[Faulkner]

A personal owned Mossberg model 590 is my standard shotgun I've kept in my patrol car for about 20 years. With speedfeed stock, factory ghost rings and heat shield, I decided to acquire a bayonet not long after I got it just in case I was ever called upon to quell a riot or something. Alas, I've never had to fix bayonet to resolve a issue, thank goodness.

 

[rockquarry]

As I thought, no real usefulness, sort of like Tyler grip adapters, but many like the looks. We all have different tastes in what we look at and there's nothing wrong with that.

 

[AJ]

This is a copy that I built of a USMC Remington 870 Mk 1. These were made in the late 1960's for the Corps. An original one sold for $16,000 at auction a couple of years ago. It will take a bayonet. I used this one to teach a Combat Shotgun Course to the Navy when I was stationed at Naval Station Long Beach.

 

[poledorus]

Here is a custom reproduction inspired by Confederate shotguns mounting bayonets. You can get the full story at Lodgewood, here: https://www.lodgewood.com/-CSA-Shotgun-W-Socket-Bayonet-Alteration_c_246.html

 

[65-2x2]

Never bring a knife to a gunfight.

 

[Muley Gil]

My PD bought a bunch of Ithaca riot guns in the 1960s. They came with 1917 bayonets.

 

[AJ]

I do have a bayonet for my USMC Remington M870 MK 1. It is the same bayonet used for the M16's.

 

[Ματθιας]

The ultimate bayonet for the AR or 590 series is the KCB-77 M1. It has a blade that's about 10in German steel. It looks impressive.

I have one but for some reason, the muzzle ring isn't high enough to fit the 590. Works on the full size ARs though. Maybe mine is slightly out of spec...

Not my picture, but this is what they look like.



They are rare, spendy, and I've only seen three in person - The one I have, a Colt marked one and a black one. A local collector died and the widow showed up to sell many years ago. Mine is like the one pictured.

 

[No Quarter]

I carried a shotgun in Somalia. Bayonet was fixed. Great for crowd control and a surefire way to get some officer to yell at you. Not a Marine officer mind you, but the army ones seemed particularly angry with me at all times. Wussies. They could not understand that us Jarheads did not consider ourselves as being there to hand out candy.