Shroud On N Frames

[gaucho1]

I prefer N frames with ejector shrouds.

I wonder why S&W even made civilian models without shrouds.

My understanding of the deletion is the British request from WW1.

Anybody else feel this way?

 

[Modified]

Cheaper to produce I expect.

 

[Dave T]

I agree that the N-frames with shrouded ejector rods are much preferable to those without (2nd Model HE and the Model 58).

To go a step further I would prefer to see ERH equipped barrels on all the K-frame 38 Specials, like the M-68. There's also a M-10 variation that has a shroud but I don't remember specifically what it is. It might have been over runs from a foreign contract. Just can't remember right now (it's an age thing - lol).

Any way, I'm with you in preferring shrouded ejectors.

Dave

 

[gaucho1]

I agree with the appearance of the K frames as well.

I would go further in saying that fixed sight and shroud has a real
appeal also. Three inch Ladysmith Mod.13 comes to mind.

Keith44 has some really clean conversions.

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

Love the shrouded ejector housings.........HATE full lugged barrels.

 

[gaucho1]

Love the shrouded ejector housings.........HATE full lugged barrels.

I concur, although I have an a 6" 686 that shoots like a lazerbeam, voiding
my appearance preference.

Six inch full lug does look better to me than the three or four inch, so that helps.

 

[05CarbonDRZ]

I like full lugs and half lugs about equal,What I can not stand is the angled shrouds on the new PC Guns.

 

[chipking]

I love them ALL especially my Model 58's. To those that don't like the shrouds I can only say THANKS cause that means there is one less person to worry about getting my favorite model.
Chip King

 

[Nightowl]

I prefer the shrouds. I think they just look better. I would always jump on a model 19 or N frame with the shroud much faster than one without. Same with adjustable sights. I am not much interested in a gun without adjustable sights, the exceptions might be the Heavy Duty's and a second model .44 Special.

 

[Hondo44]

Love shrouds, they are a must for me, but not full shrouds. Also prefer pre war barrel extractor knobs on all Smiths.

The elimination of the 44 1st Model shroud wasn't entirely due to the British. The Triple Locks really didn't sell all that well and were about $2 higher than the competition. $2 doesn't sound like all that much but when one considers the price back then was about $18, a $2 premium over competitors was a significant amount; a weeks wages for some at the time.

 

[Doc44]

The extractor rod shroud adds weight and also is a place for dirt to collect and it is more expensive. That is why is was eliminated on the Second Model Hand Ejector.

Bill

 

[30-30remchester]

I differ than most. I prefer non shrouded barrels. I am also prefer fixed sights IF they are of the later style (circa 1960 and newer) in which the front site is thick and is similar in shape to the Baughman style. I do realize that the shroud is a protector of the light constructed ejector rod. My fantasy is to someday find a 1950's era round butt N framed 6" barreled model 29 with a non shrouded tapered barrel with fixed sights. You know there has to be at least one of these around somewhere.

 

[05CarbonDRZ]

I differ than most. I prefer non shrouded barrels. I am also prefer fixed sights IF they are of the later style (circa 1960 and newer) in which the front site is thick and is similar in shape to the Baughman style. I do realize that the shroud is a protector of the light constructed ejector rod. My fantasy is to someday find a 1950's era round butt N framed 6" barreled model 29 with a non shrouded tapered barrel with fixed sights. You know there has to be at least one of these around somewhere.

I am sure a talented Gunsmith could turn your dream into a reality.

 

[gaucho1]

Love shrouds, they are a must for me, but not full shrouds. Also prefer pre war barrel extractor knobs on all Smiths.

The elimination of the 44 1st Model shroud wasn't entirely due to the British. The Triple Locks really didn't sell all that well and were about $2 higher than the competition. $2 doesn't sound like all that much but when one considers the price back then was about $18, a $2 premium over competitors was a significant amount; a weeks wages for some at the time.

I would guess the lions share of increased cost was due to the third lock.
Very finely fitted and somewhat intricate.

Those durn Colt didn't even have an an extractor lug!

 

[The Gila Bender]

Although a huge fan of the shroud I am impressed by the difference in handling characteristics of the 2nd Model .44 HE with 5" barrel when compared to the 5" 1926 Model .44HE. The difference in weight is only one ounce, but the 2nd Model feels much less nose-heavy.

 

[Hondo44]

I differ than most. I prefer non shrouded barrels. I am also prefer fixed sights IF they are of the later style (circa 1960 and newer) in which the front site is thick and is similar in shape to the Baughman style. I do realize that the shroud is a protector of the light constructed ejector rod. My fantasy is to someday find a 1950's era round butt N framed 6" barreled model 29 with a non shrouded tapered barrel with fixed sights. You know there has to be at least one of these around somewhere.

I am sure a talented Gunsmith could turn your dream into a reality.

Yes, because that's what it would take; no such animal in captivity.

 

[Hondo44]

Although a huge fan of the shroud I am impressed by the difference in handling characteristics of the 2nd Model .44 HE with 5" barrel when compared to the 5" 1926 Model .44HE. The difference in weight is only one ounce, but the 2nd Model feels much less nose-heavy.

Tom,

I can't deny that. I kinda' like it nose-heavy when I shoot it, especially for follow up shots, however.

 

[Gun 4 Fun]

I will say that even though I vastly prefer the shroud, some smaller/lighter barreled guns like the M-15 look better without it IMO. There may be one or two others that do as well, but that is the one that comes to mind immediately (maybe because I was handling mine earlier )

Not having a shroud will not keep me from buying a classic old gun though. Never, so you non shrouded lovers aren't as safe as you think.

 

[SDH]

 

[gaucho1]

Of course, I also have a BUNCH of those............be in that I collect 1917s. You could toss in a TL just for spice.

Love them all too.