Sig 229R FTE

[Miles2014]

Hi,
I recently purchased new a 229R a few months ago, haven't shot it alot, but when I have it's been great. Recently, I've experienced a fairly high amount of FTEs. It's a 9mm and I'm only shooting factory ammo (recently Winchester white box). The FTE occurs when a spent shell remains in the barrel channel with an unspent round pushing up against it. Upon further review today when I got home from the range I noticed that one of the mags that was shipped with the pistol was for 9mm and the other was for .40/357.

1.) could this be causing the FTE and
2.) what will Sig do to make it right?
3.) Shoukd the whole gun go back?

Anybody have any experience with this? Needless to say, I'm a bit disappointed.
kind of pi$@#d off.

 

[OKFC05]

Suggest:

Use the correct magazine and contact Sig about the other.
Be sure the chamber is thoroughly clean and DRY. Oil will cook and stick.
If you still have problems, contact Sig and expect to have to send the whole gun back to check extractor, etc.

 

[Miles2014]

Suggest:

Use the correct magazine and contact Sig about the other.
Be sure the chamber is thoroughly clean and DRY. Oil will cook and stick.
If you still have problems, contact Sig and expect to have to send the whole gun back to check extractor, etc.

Thanks OCFC05,

I'll do that. Do you think the mag could be the issue? Also, I thought Sigs like to "run wet".

Thanks

 

[WVSig]

Thanks OCFC05,

I'll do that. Do you think the mag could be the issue? Also, I thought Sigs like to "run wet".

Thanks

Gun should be run wet. Does the malfunction happen with both mags or just the one marked 40/357 Sig?

You need 9mm mags to shoot 9mm. Test the gun with just the 9mm mag. If the problem goes away you have your answer. If not you have an extractor problem.

 

[OKFC05]

I thought Sigs like to "run wet".

If you think "running wet" means putting oil in the chamber, we need to talk..........its the rails that need to be wet.
I can't diagnose a gun I can't examine, but I get quite a few students that make fundamental errors with a new gun, like not cleaning it, adding lube without cleaning, too much lube, lube in the wrong places, so the first easy step is to clean the gun and lube in the places the manufacturer recommends.
Then see how it goes from there. It could be an extractor issue.

The .40 mags have wider spaced lips than the 9mm, so using them for 9mm can cause feeding problems.

 

[Arik]

Sigs and most modern duty guns don't need to be "wet". Put a little oil, spread it around, wipe off excess and done.

Use the 9mm mag to test

 

[Miles2014]

Gun should be run wet. Does the malfunction happen with both mags or just the one marked 40/357 Sig?

You need 9mm mags to shoot 9mm. Test the gun with just the 9mm mag. If the problem goes away you have your answer. If not you have an extractor problem.

Thanks, WVSig,
Of course, I noticed the mag difference when I got. I would have just shot each separately if I saw it at the range. I'll definitely contact Sig either way. Me theory is the .40 mag is the issue, but will test them. Either way they need to provide me with 2 9mm mags.

Thanks

 

[WVSig]

Sigs and most modern duty guns don't need to be "wet". Put a little oil, spread it around, wipe off excess and done.

Use the 9mm mag to test

Sig should have their rails well lubricated. If you don't you will run the risk of damaging the rails due to the stainless steel slide contacting the alloy frame.

I prefer grease for this role. Sigs need to be run wet compared to say a Glock.

Lubrication of Sig Sauer pistol rails | Apex Tactical Specialties

I thought Sigs like to "run wet".
If you think "running wet" means putting oil in the chamber, we need to talk..........its the rails that need to be wet.

100% correct!

 

[thomasinaz]

The 40 mag trying to feed 9mm ammo is probably your problem. Sig will more than likely send you a proper magazine when you contact them. As far as "running wet" Sigs need grease on the rails and some light lubrication on other contact areas. The Apex Tactical link provides some very good info.

 

[Miles2014]

The 40 mag trying to feed 9mm ammo is probably your problem. Sig will more than likely send you a proper magazine when you contact them. As far as "running wet" Sigs need grease on the rails and some light lubrication on other contact areas. The Apex Tactical link provides some very good info.

Thanks Thomas,

My thought is when using the .40 mag (unknowingly), the next round is not seated properly, thus obstructing the extraction of the previously spent shell keeping it in the chamber. Does that sound logical or am I goofy?

Thanks

 

[66snub]

I'm an armorer at my department, and during our annual inspect/clean of everyone's duty weapons, I do them with grease on the rails and entire outside of the barrel, with oil on everything else.

I'm not saying that this way is the best and there's no other way, but oil has a tendency to evaporate/disappear. In an environment where the gun operator may not be a "gun person" and observe regular maintenance, I can at least know that the big players inside the gun still have lube if the only cleaning that the guns receive is the once a year that I give them.

 

[66snub]

By the way, the Sig P229 is an exquisite weapon. Give it a chance by figuring out the issue with it, you'll be glad you did. It's an heirloom quality firearm that will serve you well for many, many years to come.

 

[Miles2014]

By the way, the Sig P229 is an exquisite weapon. Give it a chance by figuring out the issue with it, you'll be glad you did. It's an heirloom quality firearm that will serve you well for many, many years to come.

Thanks 66snub,
I plan to...I love it. Until the recent issues popped up, I've had nothing but good things to say about it. In your experience, Is it within reason to believe that the mags are causing the feeding/extraction malfunction?