modraker
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I am thinking of purchasing a Sigma.
Sigma 9mm or .40SW?
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GatorFarmer
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Many Sigma purchasers opt for the Sigma as a money saving measure. Ammunition for a 9mm is less expensive than .40SW rounds, so I'd say that the 9mm would probably be the winner.
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I had one in .40 and it was a good shooting gun that was problem free. However, the trigger pull was 12 lbs! (Spec on this gun) I had a smith work it down to 7 lbs, where it was comfortable to shoot.
My suggestion is to save up a little longer and get an M&P. Much easier gun to shoot due to the lower bore axis, and an immensely improved trigger. Plus, it looks cooler!
That being said, there's nothing wrong if you have your heart set on a Sigma.
My suggestion is to save up a little longer and get an M&P. Much easier gun to shoot due to the lower bore axis, and an immensely improved trigger. Plus, it looks cooler!
That being said, there's nothing wrong if you have your heart set on a Sigma.
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Gator makes a good point. 9 is cheap. 40 ain't.
TNDixieGirl
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Ditto what Gator said.
mcholak
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Depends on what you want to use it for. Personally I'd rather have the extra punch if you're using it for a carry or self defense weapon. Not that 9mm won't do the job, I just like the insurance that a bigger round gives you.
That said, I'd think most ranges have this gun. Shoot them both and see what you like better.
That said, I'd think most ranges have this gun. Shoot them both and see what you like better.
Rent both at a local range... if you are able, and see which one fits your needs and wallet better.
The recoil and cost of 9mm rounds is lower as the other members pointed out, but the 40SW round is more powerful and a little expensive.
They are both great inexpensive defensive weapons. I own both a 40V and 9VE and I actively use both at the range. My "purty" EAA Witness 10mm sits in my safe because the rounds for it costs more than a box of 9mm and 40SW combined!
The recoil and cost of 9mm rounds is lower as the other members pointed out, but the 40SW round is more powerful and a little expensive.
They are both great inexpensive defensive weapons. I own both a 40V and 9VE and I actively use both at the range. My "purty" EAA Witness 10mm sits in my safe because the rounds for it costs more than a box of 9mm and 40SW combined!
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modraker
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Thank you, mcholak and madmax, for your excellent suggestion of trying both at the range.
Yesterday, I saw a used SW40F at the local gunshop. What is the difference between the inner workings of the 40F and that of the present day 40VE?
Yesterday, I saw a used SW40F at the local gunshop. What is the difference between the inner workings of the 40F and that of the present day 40VE?
I chose the Sigma for the price. I chose the 9mm for the price of ammo.
Forester
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Same as everyone above. I chose the 40ve for the extra power, but miss my old 9mm for cheaper ammo.
I love my 9VE. Easy access to inexpensive ammo has allowed me to practice much more than I could with the .40. I'm quite happy with Blazer Brass 9mm @$6 to $8 per box, and Hydrashoks for SSI. Both are accurate and reliable.
GatorFarmer
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Long story short, the earlier Sigmas are the ones that will have more issues, including breakage. The current ones are simply relatively inexpensive entry level pistols that will usually work (trigger pull isn't great, the degree to which this matters depends on if you're a Sigma fan or not).
If you're looking at used guns, the SW 3rd Generation autos will likely be a better value, at least if you're willing and able to simply replace a set of springs.
I had the same question a few months ago. I went with the 9. I'm glad I did because I love my 9ve and find myself putting alot of rounds through it. It's easier to justify shooting more when it's cheaper to do so.
I bought my 9mm right before the mag ban in CA.Its about 8-9 yrs old and works great. All I've had to replace was the magazine catch and that was sent to me free.
I bought a .40 earlier this yr with a $30 rebate + was on sale for $319 and 2 free mags and a free range bag. Couldn't resist it.
Works great, the trigger needs breaking in. I do like my 9mm more though, easier to handle, more accurate. The 9mm kicks less, and the .40 is more "snappier", but nothing like a .45
I say buy both when you find them on sale with free magazines.
I bought a .40 earlier this yr with a $30 rebate + was on sale for $319 and 2 free mags and a free range bag. Couldn't resist it.
Works great, the trigger needs breaking in. I do like my 9mm more though, easier to handle, more accurate. The 9mm kicks less, and the .40 is more "snappier", but nothing like a .45
I say buy both when you find them on sale with free magazines.
LuddhaBuddha
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I say get the .40 because its not a 9mm
but seriously get whatever you want, 9mm cost less and gives you one more round, .40 makes a bigger hole, just decide whats important to you.
but seriously get whatever you want, 9mm cost less and gives you one more round, .40 makes a bigger hole, just decide whats important to you.
I bought em both!
Couldn't resist the price!
Couldn't resist the price!
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The ammo price difference is there,
but not as bad as it could be.
IE: I was considering a used .44 special,
and comparing at one popular site, using
blazer ammo as a comparison, .44 special
FMJ 200 gr is 29 bucks a box of 50.. Ouch..
That gave me 2nd thoughts about the .44 special,
despite how well I like that caliber.
At that site, 9mm is 12.00 for 50, and .40 S&W
is 14.00. So two bucks more a box of 50 at the
moment at that place. .45 ACP is 16.00.
So anyway, it could be worse for the .40..
There seem to be more deals on .40 vs some of
the other larger calibers, probably because it's
been so popular lately.
Anyway, being mine is for defense, more likely
animals rather than crooks, I wanted as much
horsepower I could get and went the .40 vs the
9mm.
2-3 bucks extra per 50 wasn't enough to
make me go the 9mm. I'll feel more comfortable
going against say a wild hog or dog with the
.40.
I would have gone .45 ACP if they made a sigma
that caliber.. Two more bucks a box, but just
that much more stop power with those heavier
wider slugs.
Still a relative bargain vs the
44 special ammo. :/
but not as bad as it could be.
IE: I was considering a used .44 special,
and comparing at one popular site, using
blazer ammo as a comparison, .44 special
FMJ 200 gr is 29 bucks a box of 50.. Ouch..
That gave me 2nd thoughts about the .44 special,
despite how well I like that caliber.
At that site, 9mm is 12.00 for 50, and .40 S&W
is 14.00. So two bucks more a box of 50 at the
moment at that place. .45 ACP is 16.00.
So anyway, it could be worse for the .40..
There seem to be more deals on .40 vs some of
the other larger calibers, probably because it's
been so popular lately.
Anyway, being mine is for defense, more likely
animals rather than crooks, I wanted as much
horsepower I could get and went the .40 vs the
9mm.
2-3 bucks extra per 50 wasn't enough to
make me go the 9mm. I'll feel more comfortable
going against say a wild hog or dog with the
.40.
I would have gone .45 ACP if they made a sigma
that caliber.. Two more bucks a box, but just
that much more stop power with those heavier
wider slugs.
44 special ammo. :/
Universal
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I voted for the 9mm. The Sigma seems like a great gun for the price and of the centerfire calibers, the 9mm seems to be most common one to find at a reasonable price pretty anywhere you can buy ammo.
With the right ammo, the performance of the 9mm and .40S&W is very close and you should pick the caliber you shoot the best.
I carried a .40 for a long time and shot it very well. Once I switched to the 9mm, I realized that I shot it even better and once I could chose my own sidearm and caliber, I stuck with the 9mm for that reason. I would rather hit with the 9mm than miss with the .40.
With the right ammo, the performance of the 9mm and .40S&W is very close and you should pick the caliber you shoot the best.
I carried a .40 for a long time and shot it very well. Once I switched to the 9mm, I realized that I shot it even better and once I could chose my own sidearm and caliber, I stuck with the 9mm for that reason. I would rather hit with the 9mm than miss with the .40.
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