Sigma accuracy?

[Cornhusker]

HI
I don't post much, but I do lurk some, but today I had something on my mind.
All over the internet, I see people bashing the Sigmas.
I never shot one of the older ones, so it may have been deserved, but in my opinion the ones they make now are very good guns.
I've have my SW9VE for almost a year and a half and never had a problem.
My trigger lightened up nicely after a while, and it eats anything I feed it.
I was wondering how other people felt about the accuracy?
As far as I can tell, at least for me, this Sigma is as accurate as anything I have, but I read about people having trouble with it, saying they shoot a foot low, etc.
When I first got mine, it appeared to shoot low and left, and I was getting kinda disgruntled.
I used it for my CCW class, and complained about it to our instructor.
He's a S&W fan big time, and he scoffed at the idea the Sigma could be that bad of a shooter.
He took my gun and pretty much made me look stupid.
He split a playing card with it the very first shot, handed it back to me and said "That's a fine gun".
He showed me what I was doing wrong, and I got better after that.
Anybody here have accuracy issues?

 

[Backon4]

99% of guns are far more accurate than the shooter. I tell everyone, if you can shoot a sigma well you can shoot anything well.

 

[mlk18]

A Sigma in the hands of a master shooter is more gun than a custom match grade 1911 in the hands of a novice. Most guns are more accurate than most shooters can shoot them. All things are relative. I do enjoy watching people with Sigmas out shoot people whose gun is the end all be all. I always add "and that Sigma cost half as much".

 

[OKFC05]

He took my gun and pretty much made me look stupid.

Think of it as "being better informed."

I have to deal with this issue regularly in beginners' classes, and try to reserve the demonstration as a last resort, after coaching them on trigger control.
I think a Sigma makes a great primary trainer because of simplicity, reliability, and the fact I can easily see the mistakes, like with a revolver.

 

[leejack]

Here's my take on it:

Shooting low is perhaps the most common mistake that shooters make. Shooting low and left is a typical right handed shooter issue (anticipating and pulling left).

The sigma as we all know, has a rather long pull and is more hefty than the average bear. Having said that; until the shooter masters the pull, anticipating the shot is a common mistake. We hear lots of people talk about shooting the sigma low at first, then it seems to get better. It's not the gun getting better, it's the shooter.

I took a liking to the trigger "almost" right away. At first, when I lost concentration or got tired, I would pull a shot low. I think I pretty much have it mastered at this point. I'm shooting it as well as I did the M9. The accuracy of the gun is "very good" for a gun that's labeled "a defensive gun". When I take my time, I'm shooting quite respectable groups, indeed.

Bottom line for me: I absolutely love the sigma and plan on getting another as soon as possible. My daughter loves it so much, I can hardly get it away from her.

Lee

 

[Cornhusker]

Think of it as "being better informed."

I have to deal with this issue regularly in beginners' classes, and try to reserve the demonstration as a last resort, after coaching them on trigger control.
I think a Sigma makes a great primary trainer because of simplicity, reliability, and the fact I can easily see the mistakes, like with a revolver.

Yeah, I'm not splitting playing cards yet, but I'm a lot better than I was, and he gave me confidence in my gun.
He's talking about doing an advanced shooting class, I'd sure like to get in on that.

 

[Rick-F]

When I got mine, I had a similar experience: low and left. I thought the pistol was defective or the sights were messed up. But later I determined the entire problem was ME. I do not have any problems now; there is not anything wrong with the Sigma-- it just takes some people (like me) a little practice to get accustomed to the trigger.

I have read where some people have had this problem and have actually adjusted/modified the sights to compensate. This is probably not a good idea as it only reinforces a poor or improper technique. Some find it hard to accept that it could be "them" that has the problem and not the pistol.

 

[.357 mag]

My Sigma off the bags can shoot 4 inchs at 25 yards. Good enough for me. At 15 yards or less I can hit my 4 inch spinner target off hand every time.

 

[rdhubba]

I have had my 40VE for about 3 months now and I love how it shots. I have no problem hitting pop cans at 20 an 25 yards. It shoots great.

 

[ChadW]

My Sigma was accurate. I was not accurate with it. I'm too accustomed to how my other semi autos triggers feel to learn a new one.

 

[LuddhaBuddha]

When I first got my sigma I tried using the pad of my finger to pull the trigger and was pushing the gun to the left. I found that if I used the joint of my finger like you would on a DA revolver that it was much more accurate.

 

[.357 mag]

When I first got my sigma I tried using the pad of my finger to pull the trigger and was pushing the gun to the left. I found that if I used the joint of my finger like you would on a DA revolver that it was much more accurate.

Yep. I'm the same way.

 

[jppezz23]

I like shooting my 40ve and i shoot just as good as i ever did with my glock.

 

[PDL]

If nothing else, when you're first starting out with a new firearm, use one of the 'correcting' targets. You can find printouts all over the net for free ones. After a while you can recognize what you're doing wrong, so you might not need them. But even experienced shooters can benefit from some coaching now and again.

 

[delta1679]

Here are the most recent results after adjusting the rear sight a bit, using the advice I've found on this forum, and basically practicing. Night and day difference from my first trip to thr range. I've had my SW40VE, my first gun, for about a month and absolutely love it.

 

[.357 mag]

Here are the most recent results after adjusting the rear sight a bit, using the advice I've found on this forum, and basically practicing. Night and day difference from my first trip to thr range. I've had my SW40VE, my first gun, for about a month and absolutely love it.

Looks great! A few hundred more rounds and you'll be in there.

 

[johnm251]

what distance was that at?

 

[delta1679]

what distance was that at?

This target was at 21 feet. I'm brand new to shooting, so I've been quite thrilled to see an improvement so soon. I went shooting again this past Saturday and had even better results. My father-in-law and I ended up putting the target back to the 40ft mark for the last mag of the day and I was pleased see that I had hit the target with every shot, most of them in the black area.

 

[FourEyez]

I watched my brother shoot my 9VE, twice this weekend, both center circle on the target less then an inch apart.

His first time EVER shooting my gun. Has no opinon about the 9ve. He's an Ex cop and a hell of a shot:

He looked at me and said "Nice gun..kinda stiff trigger but nice gun". I paced him at 20 paces to the target...he walked back into the cabin.

I wish I could shoot it as good as he can...but it was GREAT to see how an experinced marksman can do well then they have the fundimentals down.

 

[Wisemaster]

I love my SW40VE as well. I have a tiny little wife who's about 115 lbs, and she shoots it with no problems. It twist in her hands a bit, but she can fire off 100 rounds no problem. Were both working on our accuracy at 25 yards, but I'm as accurate with my SW40VE as I've been with any other pistol....What I've been most impressed with is the reliability. 600 or so rounds so far, 0 jams, 0 stovepipes. It's been as reliable as a revolver so far. I clean my guns well after I shoot em, and I always put a drop of oil in the 6 oiling spots before we go to the range, but we fired 350 rounds one long day at the range and I didn't clean it at any point and it was problem free.