Smart Guns in NJ? Yikes!

[GreyRider]

NJ's 2002 smart-gun law could take effect soon, limit supply - NorthJersey.com

Read the part where she says "who WOULDN'T want a smart gun?"

And what about wheel guns?
More saber rattling?? Comments please.

 

[the deer hunter]

of course the cops don't want to use them they could easily be disabled by some type of signal jammer. how about the cops will have those though.

 

[Mcwsky09]

Are the law makers or the gun makers going to stand down range while an unauthorized user attempts to fire the gun to verify the effectiveness of the technology? Because if they aren't wiling to do so then at least half the reason for the technology isn't effective. And how will the state compensate legitimate users when the technology fails them?

 

[poordevil]

And what about situations such as happened a week or so ago, where a policeman's son had to shot a home invader with his fathers gun. He would not have been able to with this nonsense.

 

[Maximumbob54]

I got as far as:

"Who is going to want to buy an old stupid gun rather than a smart gun?" Teret, who has been working on the issue for 30 years, said. "I am very optimistic about this."

And then I stopped reading. These people have lost their minds.

 

[arjay]

I prefer my guns to be dumber than me


Sent from my Dick Tracy 2 way wrist radio.

 

[duppie]

Not going to happen.....The available technology is bulky,unreliable and primitive at best, Under the law LEO's are exempt, so that should tell you just how much confidence is put into the technology not to mention NJ has some of the most litigious residents,special interest groups and unions in America...along with it's fair share of hungry attorneys. It would be like chumming in shark infested waters.......

 

[Travis15R]

This is the part that gets me

The law, which requires the state's gun dealers to exclusively sell smart guns within three years after the first one hits the market, has been largely forgotten since the Legislature adopted it in 2002

How can NJ dictate what type of guns can be sold? Thats like saying only Ford or Chevy can be sold in one specific state. How are they able to stand on this legally?

I have no problems with new tech coming out and it being used for guns, but my issue is let the free market decide if it is what consumers want. If they sell like hot cakes then great, but if they die along side HDDVD then the consumers have spoken.

 

[gdnagle]

How can NJ dictate what type of guns can be sold? Thats like saying only Ford or Chevy can be sold in one specific state. How are they able to stand on this legally?

I have no problems with new tech coming out and it being used for guns, but my issue is let the free market decide if it is what consumers want. If they sell like hot cakes then great, but if they die along side HDDVD then the consumers have spoken.

Because they are law makers. They can do whatever they want until they are voted out they don't care about the law. They make their own as they go merrily along.

 

[duppie]

This is the part that gets me

The law, which requires the state's gun dealers to exclusively sell smart guns within three years after the first one hits the market, has been largely forgotten since the Legislature adopted it in 2002

How can NJ dictate what type of guns can be sold? Thats like saying only Ford or Chevy can be sold in one specific state. How are they able to stand on this legally?

I have no problems with new tech coming out and it being used for guns, but my issue is let the free market decide if it is what consumers want. If they sell like hot cakes then great, but if they die along side HDDVD then the consumers have spoken.

Basically it was passed with those stipulations to ensure that when the time comes some politician could hold up a flawed "smart" gun that perhaps sold a couple hundred units,considering it "in wide use" and disallow any other firearm from being sold in state. We can still challenge "in wide use" because of Heller and then there's the fact of dealing....for now,with a monopoly.
If or when it passes and some tragedy occurs, that's when the attorneys take over.

 

[Travis15R]

Yeah I get that they can pass whatever law they want but I dont get how they can go from passing a law like that and having it be actually implemented w/ out a huge up hill legal battle

 

[Comrad]

I'm in NJ and not worried, every handgun I buy is preowned, I like the vintage stuff, the quality, the workmanship and art of the piece. The new stuff just doesn't do it for me. The newest gun I own is a 6906 round trigger guard.

 

[duppie]

Yeah I get that they can pass whatever law they want but I dont get how they can go from passing a law like that and having it be actually implemented w/ out a huge up hill legal battle

You only have to read comrad's post to see how the law passed with little or no fanfare.
New Jersey gun owners are a fractured group,Fudds,Mall Ninjas,preppers et al all only interested in what affects them directly so by the time we all were on the same page the law had already passed.
Implementing it is another thing entirely.

 

[GreyRider]

One of the things that troubles me most -and in light of the political & social implications - May seem ignorant and even luddistic (I think that's a word) is that I like my gun (only 1 so far) because it is MECHANICAL. I'm a tool guy. I love the feel of the cylinder the same way I like to run my hands down the face of a well used and polished shoe plane. A perfect hollow ground on a wood chisel. A brass plumb-bob. I love to hear the metallic clicks when I spin the cylinder. I know I'm not the only one out there that thinks this way. My gun is a beautifully crafted tool. I couldn't imagine it having a chip in it or having to check the batteries on it every 6 months. You guys that have had guns for 20/30/40 years or guns that were handed down to you by your fathers... Well, you guys who know- know what I mean. Politics aside. I think it's sad.

 

[Harrison]

This is the part that gets me

How can NJ dictate what type of guns can be sold? Thats like saying only Ford or Chevy can be sold in one specific state. How are they able to stand on this legally?

QUOTE]

Easy, California has been doing it for years.

 

[mikey98e]

I'm in NJ and not worried, every handgun I buy is preowned, I like the vintage stuff, the quality, the workmanship and art of the piece. The new stuff just doesn't do it for me. The newest gun I own is a 6906 round trigger guard.

You're not worried now. Wait until they come after your guns; and they will.
-mike

 

[Steve in Vermont]

What's the problem? I mean this technology has proven itself to work 90% of the time. If you were purchasing a car at a local dealership and the salesman told you the brakes on your new car worked 90% of the time wouldn't you feel good about driving your family home?. It wouldn't surprise me if someone came up with an idea for an IL for guns, with the requirement they be activated at all times and the key be kept in a separate location (under lock and key, of course).

 

[AZretired]

I can't even get my smart Phone to work right 90% of the time. Smart cars are a joke! What are they planning to do with all the "Dumb" guns still in circulation? I am so glad that I moved out of Jersey 40 years ago!

 

[cmort666]

And what about situations such as happened a week or so ago, where a policeman's son had to shot a home invader with his fathers gun. He would not have been able to with this nonsense.

• Violence never solves anything.
• Home invasion isn't punishable by death.
• Self-defense would teach the kid that violence solves problems.
• If the kid saved his life by killing someone (and guns ALWAYS kill), he'd have to live with that for the rest of his life.

I believe I've hit the advocates' "high points"...

 

[cmort666]

I'm in NJ and not worried, every handgun I buy is preowned, I like the vintage stuff, the quality, the workmanship and art of the piece. The new stuff just doesn't do it for me. The newest gun I own is a 6906 round trigger guard.

Gun owners in New York weren't "worried" either... until the "SAFE" Act...