Smith & Wesson CSX?

I was just on Guns International and there's 2 for sale . It's not a bad price for what you get . I think I'm going to pick up one of the new 10mm's first , then I'll look at these . It would be my first new S&W ever , it's going to take a little time to work myself up to it . After all my 1st , 2nd and 3rd gens , my PC's and revolvers , I think I have a mental block when it comes to newer S&W's . Maybe these new models will help me get through it .
 
Grabagun is advertising them in stock for $599. I'm not too excited about the current configuration, and seems like most of today's manufacturers rely on their customers to beta test their products. Competition is good though, and hopefully S&W will refine this and offer more configurations (better trigger, optics cut, factory night sights).

CSX 9mm 3.1 12 Round Black Smith and Wesson 12615
 
There are far uglier guns out there and I don't think a 6 lb trigger is the end of the world. As for the philosophy of the thing, it seems to me that it is aimed at all the "but I'm not buying a plastic gun" brigade.

I would agree that it is a sort of hi-cap Sig 938, but is that a bad thing? I do know people who carry the 938, but even more carry the 238.
 
I watched and read several reviews on the new CSX and about all of them said the same thing about the trigger....it was terrible!! About a 7 pound average pull, not what was expected from a SAO semi-1911 styled hammer-fired pistol. If you are interested you might want to watch NutnFancy's review.
 
Interesting to hear so many Sig 938 comparisons. I have a Springfield 911, which is basically a 938 clone, which I understand is a Colt Mustang clone. It's uh… it's not my favorite. It's so small and light that it kicks very hard, and it's difficult to get a good grip because it's so small. I'm always worried about hammer or slide bite if I grip too high. Plus the trigger is pretty heavy. It's just not something I enjoy shooting. If the CSX is similar to that, I'll pass. I'm still happy with my CS9, and I'd like it even better if I could get it to stop hitting so low…
 
I started off with a "Just another gun" attitude, but after watching a couple of video's on U-tube, I'm sort of mildly interested. I have no idea why. I'm about hip deep in carry type guns now, but on the other hand I've got a fair amount of 9mm ammo laying around.

Maybe one just for grins and giggles.
 
DMcBB said:
Interesting to hear so many Sig 938 comparisons. I have a Springfield 911, which is basically a 938 clone, which I understand is a Colt Mustang clone. It's uh… it's not my favorite. It's so small and light that it kicks very hard, and it's difficult to get a good grip because it's so small. I'm always worried about hammer or slide bite if I grip too high. Plus the trigger is pretty heavy. It's just not something I enjoy shooting. If the CSX is similar to that, I'll pass. I'm still happy with my CS9, and I'd like it even better if I could get it to stop hitting so low…
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I've had the same experience with the P938s and others of it's type.

It's too small for me to shoot well and it's not that fun to try.

Hopefully Smith has done a better job of it.

I'm not sure I'll buy one but I'm at least interested in shooting one.
 
RCL-09 said:
I'd like to see that in a traditional SA/DA configuration.
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That was my feeling after seeing a video review this morning. On the plus side, it's good to see them back in the metal-framed, hammer-fired semi-auto business.

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kbm6893 said:
I'd like that too but this new gun is lighter than the CS9 was. And why in the world wouldn't they have a grip safety on a Gun carried cocked and locked? They put a grip safety on the EZ but not a gun with the hammer back on a live round? Stupidity.
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The EZ is hammer fired and carried with the hammer back. The trigger safety makes the CSX drop safe, replacing the function of the grip safety.

handgunhero has the CSX in their database for size comparisons:

Smith & Wesson CSX vs M&P 9 Shield Plus size comparison | Handgun Hero

The CSX is nearly identical to the Shield Plus.
 
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S&W could probably make a pretty good ersatz-2011 for a third of the price if they build on the CSX's foundation and make it a full-size railed optics ready pistol for duty and competition use.
 
This one's a miss for me.

I'm thinking I got enough invested in 3rd Gen carry Smiths (CS9, 3914, 6906, 4513TSW, SW99 .40 compact, and a CS45) that a single-stack SAO ain't in my future. Plus there's both 9mm and .380 EZs in the safe if I ever have problems with my hands.

I mean how much better than any of the 3rd gens can this be? Maybe a bit lighter, perhaps a bit thinner, but I got a good belt and hardly notice I'm carrying most of the time.

Actually, I probaqbly ought to sell off some of my carry guns, there's just too many of 'em to carry (add a Sig P6, Beretta PX4 compact, and a compact Sig 250 in both 9 and 40 to the inventory) but each is a really good gun in it's own right, most shoot as well as anything full-size, and I really hate selling quality.
 
marvin02 said:
The EZ is hammer fired and carried with the hammer back. The trigger safety makes the CSX drop safe, replacing the function of the grip safety.

handgunhero has the CSX in their database for size comparisons:

Smith & Wesson CSX vs M&P 9 Shield Plus size comparison | Handgun Hero

The CSX is nearly identical to the Shield Plus.
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Not for me it doesn't. The function of the grip safety for me is the gun can't fire without the grip safety being de-pressed, so it forces a proper grip. Also, for me, when holstering a gun with a grip safety, I place my thumb on the hammer, or in the case of the EZ9 I have, my thumb on the back of the slide. This forces my hand off the grip safety so the gun can't fire when it's being holstered. The grip safety also prevents the gun from being fired, as John Browning intended in case a cavalry soldier might drop the gun. For a SAO weapon, I'd much prefer the grip safety than the trigger safety.

I see this as a miss. Make it in DA/SA and I'm interested. As it is, it serves no purpose.
 
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I'm simply not seeing the fixation with DA/SA for so many. It complicates the design and would likely result in a wider gun. As for the lack of grip safety, S&W didn't design it that way, so don't bring 1911 habits to the CSX.
 
LVSteve said:
I'm simply not seeing the fixation with DA/SA for so many. It complicates the design and would likely result in a wider gun. As for the lack of grip safety, S&W didn't design it that way, so don't bring 1911 habits to the CSX.
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Every review I have seen references the 1911 style operation. It's a SAO pistol with a thumb safety. Of course it's going to be compared to a 1911.

A hair wider to make it DA/SA would be welcome. The CS9 wasn't that wide.
 
Overall I thought the price to be a surprise. Thought the price would be at least $700 or a bit more.
 
Smith & Wesson CSX?

LVSteve said:
I'm simply not seeing the fixation with DA/SA for so many. It complicates the design and would likely result in a wider gun. As for the lack of grip safety, S&W didn't design it that way, so don't bring 1911 habits to the CSX.
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I prefer appendix carry, most days. SAO makes me uncomfortable. It shouldn't matter if all goes well. Still, I prefer the buffer of a firm trigger pull, etc. Also, never shot SAO well.

It's funny. I looked at these on GunBroker last night. Really wanted to buy one but realized that it would just sit in the safe. Would probably never carry it. So, I bought another DAO 3914. Ha. It's my third.

Give me a DAO or DA/SA and I'll buy it right away. Not sure if any Smith and Wesson product development folks read this thread, but that's a promise. Probably not the only one.


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