Smith Wesson no dash 66 4 inch.

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Looking at a no dash 66. really like it . Heard they had many issues. Get or not? I will be shooting it with +p 38 and carry sometimes.
 
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Of what "issues" do you speak? I've heard nothing but good
about model 66's and i own a 66-3 with 3" BBL that i would'nt
trade for nothing. If the price is right get it and you won't regret
it.


Chuck
 
I carried one as a duty weapon for about 15-years. We never had any issues with them. We had over 400 of them and our sister agency had about 2500. They work.
Frank
 
I know 66's are great. I have a 2 1/2 inch 66-1. I heard that no dash had problems....
 
fighter, you may be right about issues, but I have not heard of them.I have a 65 & 67, but no 66's. They seem to command good prices. A no dash in good shape usually brings a little higher price. You mentioned nothing about the condition, or asking price. This means alot too. J&G Sales is selling 66 police trade ins for $469, if that helps.
A 66 expert will be able to be more specific. Good luck! Bob
 
fighter, you may be right about issues, but I have not heard of them.I have a 65 & 67, but no 66's. They seem to command good prices. A no dash in good shape usually brings a little higher price. You mentioned nothing about the condition, or asking price. This means alot too. J&G Sales is selling 66 police trade ins for $469, if that helps.
A 66 expert will be able to be more specific. Good luck! Bob

Condition is about 97%. No dings , no scratches. Magna style grips with wrong serial number. Sight has red insert ( not the early silver sights)

No box. Asking price is about 450.00
 
Do I not recall that the very early M66's...all 4in...had SS triggers and hammers that wore quickly? This was changed to 'flash chromed' carbon steel pretty quick, IIRC. For certain, in some large LE orders some guns did, indeed, suffer from various 'issues' such as bent center pins and mediocre QC, and I know of at least one large lot order (200 or so guns) of M66-1's being returned to S&W for QC problems, but there is no manufacturer out there that is, or ever was, perfect. S&W also made them right and that agency accepted them back.

I have owned several M66's over the years and never did I personally have a single problem other than blistered fingers when firing lots of full power .357Mag. Them SS guns get HOT!

At that price, if I liked it and it looked good, I'd grab it.
 
I heard of some specific problem that was corrected when 66-1's came out.

I also heard (from several sources ) that 66-1's are the VERY best of model 66
 
Keep in mind the no-dash and dash one Mod 66s are pinned and recessed... later dash models are not.

The early no-dash guns had all stainless sights to about mid model run then were switched to black rear sights and a red ramp due to LE disliking the all stainless sights.

Besides a couple of minor mechanical modifications, the most significant change for the dash one was rear black sights and a red ramp on all 66s. The dash two and later guns, like those currently being marketed by JG Sales were no longer pinned and recessed.

The Mod 66 has a huge following and is the favorite of many, many people...:)

JMHO

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S & W 66, 4 inch

I have one that I purchased in 1972 or 1973. It has the SS rear sight and the front sight is slightly rounded because of holster wear. Its a great gun and I never had a problem with it. I used it as a duty gun longer than any other gun, until the semi auto's came into style. By the way I paid $130.00 for it new at Colosomos in Philadelphia. I have lost the box but I still have the reciept. The day that I bought that gun he had an entire shipping palet of them.
John Murphy
 
The no dash 66 that I am looking at has : black rear sights, red insert front sight, the trigger and hammer look the same as on my 66-1 ( like nickel finish).

Its a four inch.
 
Not sure about issues with early model 66 versus later model 66, but there was an issue with all K frame .357 magnums, whether SS or blued. The K frmes were made with the intent of practice with mild .38 Special cartridges, and carrying with .357 magnum loads. Some people shot lots of hot .357 magnum loads in the K frames, and it caused split forcing cones, flame cut uppers, and the guns to loosen up. That was supposed to be corrected by the beefier L frame guns. As long as you don't go nuts shooting lots of hot .357 magnum loads, the K frame .38/.357 guns are great.
 
Not sure about issues with early model 66 versus later model 66, but there was an issue with all K frame .357 magnums, whether SS or blued. The K frmes were made with the intent of practice with mild .38 Special cartridges, and carrying with .357 magnum loads. Some people shot lots of hot .357 magnum loads in the K frames, and it caused split forcing cones, flame cut uppers, and the guns to loosen up. That was supposed to be corrected by the beefier L frame guns. As long as you don't go nuts shooting lots of hot .357 magnum loads, the K frame .38/.357 guns are great.

So what is the talk about some mechanical change from 66 to 66-1?
 
The dash 1 revision moved the gas ring from the yoke to the cylinder to address cylinder binding.

So I guess I should avoid 66 no dash?
I am not a collector, I am a shooter and I carry revolvers a lot ( off duty). With 38+P and +P+ ammunition only. I dont use magnums.
 
So I guess I should avoid 66 no dash?
I am not a collector, I am a shooter and I carry revolvers a lot ( off duty). With 38+P and +P+ ammunition only. I dont use magnums.

Please do! That will leave more for me.

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If shooting 38+Ps the only issues I've heard of were superb trigger, top notch accuracy, great balance, and envious good looks.:)
 
The flame cutting issue was across the board on all K frame magnums and "Combat Magnums". The problem existed with Mod. 65s, 66s, 19s, etc... The problem involved the use of hot magnum loads with 125 gr bullets in particular...

As for the split forcing cones, the K frames required the bottom of the cone to be trimmed in order to clear the cylinder crane, thereby weakening the forcing cone area causing an occasional fracture on some guns. Guns shooting primarily 38 Specials very rarely had any problem. Gun shooting a steady diet of hot 125 gr. bullets occasionally did.

I don't believe you'd have any problems with your ammo preferences. The P&R Mod 66s would certainly be your best value choice should you chose to sell or trade it later..

JMHO
 
As described, $450 sounds like a fair price. You should not have any problems using .38 Special loads of any kind in it.
 
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