Smith&Wesson sales drop by $100M. Compaired to 2016
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Maybe not as bad...
Maybe not as bad as it sounds. The market has been extra strong for a few years and dropping back SOME is natural. I also would hope that it created another generation of gun enthusiasts.
Maybe not as bad as it sounds. The market has been extra strong for a few years and dropping back SOME is natural. I also would hope that it created another generation of gun enthusiasts.
Ruger blames drop in sales on politics. But...but...
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/03/sturm-ruger-stock-falls-as-people-not-buying-guns-under-trump.html
Oh, in case you wonder, I have zero IL guns, no polymer Smith auto's either.
Do have some MIM and their triggers are superior to any others. And also a Kahr 380 whose trigger is excellent.
What I do have, is much respect for my fellow S&W forum members who choose to buy any Smith gun they want, new or old without being ridiculed for doing so, either overtly or snidely. Started long before this thread.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/03/sturm-ruger-stock-falls-as-people-not-buying-guns-under-trump.html
Oh, in case you wonder, I have zero IL guns, no polymer Smith auto's either.
Do have some MIM and their triggers are superior to any others. And also a Kahr 380 whose trigger is excellent.
What I do have, is much respect for my fellow S&W forum members who choose to buy any Smith gun they want, new or old without being ridiculed for doing so, either overtly or snidely. Started long before this thread.
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I certainly hold no ill will toward S&W but I hope they realize that they cannot continue on the same path. They need to start listening to buyers.
Across their entire line of guns, there isn't mush that impresses me for the prices they are asking.
Across their entire line of guns, there isn't mush that impresses me for the prices they are asking.
LVSteve
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I would read that article if that website didn't set off the security ninjas on my machine.WAAAY too much Flash and Java going on for my tastes.
Well I'm on my new IPad and haven't quite learned all the in's and out's of copying.
Ruger has basically said the upsurge in their previous year sales 2016, were probably due to political uncertainty.
charlie sherrill
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Top break
I've got four old S&W top breaks in .38 S&W. All of them are accurate and shoot very well. One has a sawed off hammer and barrel and was carried by my grandfather as a backup when he was a cop back in the 30's. It is surprisingly accurate at short ranges. I'd buy a new on in nickel.
I've got four old S&W top breaks in .38 S&W. All of them are accurate and shoot very well. One has a sawed off hammer and barrel and was carried by my grandfather as a backup when he was a cop back in the 30's. It is surprisingly accurate at short ranges. I'd buy a new on in nickel.
Yes, I would think an updated one would be very cool.
I have an IL 625-8. No plans to sell it because it's a range gun so not really worried too much about the lock. I just shoot the carp out of it. Actually I shoot it more than my non IL guns. I will readily admit that it isn't as nice as a pre 80's gun but I didn't buy it to look at.
I lucked out and now have an accurate M&P 9mm after they replaced the junk barrel. I'm hesitant to buy an Apex trigger/sear because I think they may have replaced the sear along with the barrel. I thinkI've read that they do that sometimes. No complaints with this gun and my Shield 9mm has been perfect.
Fishslayer
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I did my part. I bought my first new S&W last month.
Well... apparently S&W is doing really well with M&P 15-22 sales. Bought & paid for one at special price (backordered) on 8/12 & as of today they haven't gotten a single one in.
This a big outfit, not some mom & pop at the end of the supply line.
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All I am saying is that there are PLENTY of Company's in business right now that sell extremely expensive items. Just look at Doug Turnbull Restorations, Randall Knives, Stan Wilson Knives, Chris Reeve Knives, Ed Brown, Tesla Cars, Gucci, Brioni, Rolex, etc...... The people who buy these items (and others like these) obviously deem them "worth the high price" for the best. My point is that during bad economy's the two Company's that always seem to do well are the very high end and very low end ones. There will always be some with unlimited funds and some that are always struggling. Quality NEVER goes out of style and there always seems to be a portion of the Country that deeply appreciates the best quality products in their class. Look how long the wait is for many of these products even if you can easily afford the price!
If Company's step up their quality drastically - people notice. If they like it they buy it - even if the price is higher than most competitors. Remember, back 40+ years ago Smith & Wesson & Colt were NEVER the cheapest guy's on the block but they had their quality, reputation, reliability and almost every Police Dept. in the Country who would vouch for that. I'm sure they could have purchased Taurus, Charter Arms, Rossi, and other lower end lines for a whole lot less but we all know why that never happened.
If Company's step up their quality drastically - people notice. If they like it they buy it - even if the price is higher than most competitors. Remember, back 40+ years ago Smith & Wesson & Colt were NEVER the cheapest guy's on the block but they had their quality, reputation, reliability and almost every Police Dept. in the Country who would vouch for that. I'm sure they could have purchased Taurus, Charter Arms, Rossi, and other lower end lines for a whole lot less but we all know why that never happened.
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5Wire
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My thoughts on this.
The onset of increasing sales easily associated with temporary condition was not hard to figure out. Firearm and ammunition manufacturers faced the challenge of increasing production without becoming asset heavy because that increase was not going to last. Eventually, added shifts would be reduced and planned downscaling would commence.
It didn't last. Now we're surfing on excess inventory getting sold off more and more often at bargain prices.
The onset of increasing sales easily associated with temporary condition was not hard to figure out. Firearm and ammunition manufacturers faced the challenge of increasing production without becoming asset heavy because that increase was not going to last. Eventually, added shifts would be reduced and planned downscaling would commence.
It didn't last. Now we're surfing on excess inventory getting sold off more and more often at bargain prices.
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