Smokey rounds.....44s and Bullseye

[dla]

Another side question:

Do CCI #300 burn less than a WLP Winchester primer?

I know I have a book that states which have . But I dont remember the book.

WLP and CCI350 haVe identical ignition characteristics, the difference being the cup hardness. I have tested them. I recommend CCI350 for all "to the wall" magnum loads using ball powders. WLP are what I use for plinker loads like what you are building.

Can't help with the smoke, 5gr is a very light load. Are you expecting zero smoke? Cause that ain't gonna happen.

 

[Lou_the_welder]

WLP and CCI350 haVe identical ignition characteristics, the difference being the cup hardness. I have tested them. I recommend CCI350 for all "to the wall" magnum loads using ball powders. WLP are what I use for plinker loads like what you are building.



Can't help with the smoke, 5gr is a very light load. Are you expecting zero smoke? Cause that ain't gonna happen.

I haven't had time to press some. But it seems, it was a light (too lite) of a load for such a big case. Which had a reasonable amount of 'smoke' in a special case.

 

[Lou_the_welder]

Thanks again to all !!
I will not be using that load in that case(magnum).
I will be sticking to CCI 300's and WLP primers.
And probably not ordering Rainier again! Lol!
Thanks to all! Who responded!

- Lou

 

[Rule3]

I do use a disk measuring "hopper"(?) Dispenser?
I dont know what the name is called. It's been eons since I purchased my progressive.
But it dispenses powder through a disk measure.
In cc disks. From .30cc- 1.35cc give or take.
Its measurements are precise and the same. Depending on what powder I'm using.
I dont see any way of putting a funnel as the powder goes through a powder expander die. Directly into the cases.

My above mentioned problem may have been augmented from switching from the smaller 'special' cases, to the larger 'magnum ' cases.

The "baffle" goes in the powder hopper (holder) here are directions to make one. You really don't need one if you keep the powder hopper at least 3/4 full.


Dropbox - baffle.pdf - Simplify your life

 

[Lou_the_welder]

The "baffle" goes in the powder hopper (holder) here are directions to make one. You really don't need one if you keep the powder hopper at least 3/4 full.


Dropbox - baffle.pdf - Simplify your life

Ahhh. I see. To make sure the 'charge' is accurate. Got it. So it goes in the 'hopper'.
I've never heard of this.
Idk if I want to put something in the cup. It's kinda small. And to me, if I decrease the size of powder it holds, I may run Into trouble, especially using bulky powder on bigger cases.
Sometimes I'll sit there loading and the cup although is transparent, I'll be at the bottom of the well quickly, loading cases with more than 9g each..

 

[cmj8591]

I use Bullseye in just about everything including 44 Mag.. My favorite load, and most accurate load in my 629 Classic, is the same 5 grain load you are using with the CCI 300. I load it interchangeably with the plated 240 grain and hard cast 240 grain depending on which one I get the best deal on at the LGS. Yes, it's smokey and it smells but it sure does shoot great! There's nothing better than coming home from a range session with a gun looking like it's been in a chimney fire! If you are finding too much fouling for your tastes, try switching to 5.5 grains of Winchester 231. It will give you the same 800 FPS but is not quite as accurate for me. I only crimp enough to remove the mouth flare. I'm loading on a Dillon 550 with their powder measure which will throw between 4.9 and 5.1 grains depending on how much I jostle the press.

 

[Forrest r]

There's nothing wrong with using bullseye for lite/plinking loads in the 44mag. Bullseye's an excellent powder but like all powders, bullseye have a pressure curve where it really shines. Stay above that minimum pressure and your golden.

Can't even begin to count the # of posts quoting 2.7gr of bullseye/148gr hbwc in a 38spl. +/- 14,500 psi
3.5gr in a 38spl pushing 158gr bullets. +/- 15,500psi
5.0gr of bullseye in a 45acp case/225gr cast rn bullet +/- 15,000psi
5.0gr of bullseye 240gr lswc/44spl +/- 15,000psi

Speer who is known for having low pressure load data for their soft swaged lead bullets lists for their 240gr swaged lead swc:
starting load 5.5gr of bullseye
max load 6.0gr of bullseye

The problem with that 5.0gr load is the bullet style/crimp isn't aiding in the buildup of the short start pressure along with it's a +/- 11,000psi load to begin with.

Take a look at your cases and see if theirs soot on 1 side of them after shooting your soft load. That's a tell tale sign that there's not enough pressure with that load to seal the cylinders. Make no mistake about bullets seated crooked do nothing but either give false reading of under pressure with lite loads. Along with magnifying the soot.

There's nothing wrong with bullseye powder, couldn't even begin to count how many #'s of it I've burned over the decades. At the end of the day your going to find that lite loads in the 44mags like:

6.0gr +/- fast burning powders like bullseye/clays/reddot
6.5gr +/- greendot/trailboss/American select/ww321
7.0gr +/- unique/herco/power pistol

Last I knew you could go up to +/- 9.8gr of bullseye with a 240gr lead swc in the 44mag. Bump your load up doing ladder tests starting at 5.8gr going up in .2gr increments. I doubt you'll get past 6.6gr to find what your looking for.