Social Security Database to be used in Background Checks?
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I deal with the SSA and the VA on a regular basis. I'm retired and I'm a vet.
The SSA ran a query on my IRS reported income and informed me that I owed them 2K. They also informed me that I had a right to appeal in 90 days. At that time if I hadn't they were going to reduce my retirement until they got their money back. The funny thing was they had all the information they needed from the IRS to resolve the issue but claimed I had misinformed them about my income. I had done no such thing because my employer gave the IRS the correct information, they just didn't understand their own rules well enough to resolve it. It took me about 15 minutes of research online to see where they screwed up. I then had to appeal with documentation. A year later they still haven't officially resolved it and I'm still on their hit list.
The VA is the same way. I won't go into it in detail but the last time I was at the service center they couldn't find my record. They said there were two records centers and they didn't have access to the other one, they only had access to theirs. Seems I had filed a claim online which totally derailed them.
The fed thinks they can gather information, put it in a database, or several databases and use a program to profile a person, which is exactly what this proposed EO is doing. They are using the information to put everyone of us in neat little categories to restrict and regulate us accordingly.
Personally I would have been better off if I not paid a dime into social security and never enlisted in the military. I think a lot of people are starting to realize the pitfalls of dealing with the fed.
The SSA ran a query on my IRS reported income and informed me that I owed them 2K. They also informed me that I had a right to appeal in 90 days. At that time if I hadn't they were going to reduce my retirement until they got their money back. The funny thing was they had all the information they needed from the IRS to resolve the issue but claimed I had misinformed them about my income. I had done no such thing because my employer gave the IRS the correct information, they just didn't understand their own rules well enough to resolve it. It took me about 15 minutes of research online to see where they screwed up. I then had to appeal with documentation. A year later they still haven't officially resolved it and I'm still on their hit list.
The VA is the same way. I won't go into it in detail but the last time I was at the service center they couldn't find my record. They said there were two records centers and they didn't have access to the other one, they only had access to theirs. Seems I had filed a claim online which totally derailed them.
The fed thinks they can gather information, put it in a database, or several databases and use a program to profile a person, which is exactly what this proposed EO is doing. They are using the information to put everyone of us in neat little categories to restrict and regulate us accordingly.
Personally I would have been better off if I not paid a dime into social security and never enlisted in the military. I think a lot of people are starting to realize the pitfalls of dealing with the fed.
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filipows
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READ the article.
COMPREHEND what you read.
It is not strictly about age.
It is about mental competency. Many people who are not old collect SS due to mental disability or incompetence.
I doubt anyone wants a 30 year old bi-polar paranoid schizophrenic who's been collecting SS for 10 yrs to be packing a gun.
The obvious thing we need to fear is how broad will the classification be?
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Obama now wants to make background checks include checking to see if a potential gun buyer is on Social Security. If other people handle your finances, if you're considered to have a bad memory, if you don't balance a checkbook correctly, that means you are too incompetent to buy a gun and might be a danger to others. This could mean that anyone who grants a trusted son or daughter power of attorney for some reason, is considered unable to take care of themselves. The type of medication you take and the info they would force your doctor to tell them could all effect this. I don't want to sound all paranoid, but this is being cooked up right now. Whether it goes anywhere, who knows.[/QUOTE]
Last week in North Idaho it was a Vet and the VA. The local community wasn't going to support the VA and there plans to search his home.
Priest River community stands up for veteran facing gun seizure - Spokane, North Idaho News & Weather KHQ.com
COMPREHEND what you read.
It is not strictly about age.
It is about mental competency. Many people who are not old collect SS due to mental disability or incompetence.
I doubt anyone wants a 30 year old bi-polar paranoid schizophrenic who's been collecting SS for 10 yrs to be packing a gun.
The obvious thing we need to fear is how broad will the classification be?
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original post-
Obama now wants to make background checks include checking to see if a potential gun buyer is on Social Security. If other people handle your finances, if you're considered to have a bad memory, if you don't balance a checkbook correctly, that means you are too incompetent to buy a gun and might be a danger to others. This could mean that anyone who grants a trusted son or daughter power of attorney for some reason, is considered unable to take care of themselves. The type of medication you take and the info they would force your doctor to tell them could all effect this. I don't want to sound all paranoid, but this is being cooked up right now. Whether it goes anywhere, who knows.[/QUOTE]
Last week in North Idaho it was a Vet and the VA. The local community wasn't going to support the VA and there plans to search his home.
Priest River community stands up for veteran facing gun seizure - Spokane, North Idaho News & Weather KHQ.com
Black_Sheep
Member
I feel any decision regarding an elder person's competency should fall on the family first...
