Having worked 16 of my 29 years in inner city areas I saw and learned a great deal about many folks and many cultures. I met many, many great folks who are just plain stuck there with no real ability to get out. They too are scared and really cannot help themselves to do so. Not all mind you but enough. Sadly, the new criminals are very violent for no reason or for a perverse thrill, or whatever their reason. One used to establish a relationship with some of the criminal types but that is rare anymore I feel. In my opinion, policemen aren't what they were 20 or 30 years ago either. Hiring standards have plummeted in many large, urban departments as no one can pass for gods sake. That too is sad. Also, for anyone hopeful of a violent insurrection,..... be careful what you wish for.
Society has fallen to a new low
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Owen49
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In my opinion, the thug culture is as real an enemy to us as the drug cartels and terrorists.
Amen, brother.
george minze
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Over the years we have closed our eyes to what was happening or didn't see it at all..The break down of society and morels. Our answer seems to be hire younger and better educated police...Subsequently the police of today are retiring at a younger and younger age..Along with that statistic is the fact that we have no old timers anymore..I had sergeants that were 62 years old. Believe it or not they wrote so you could read it. Spelled better than we do now..(of course we have spell check) They had a sense of the beat. Knew the people, knew their problems and knew the trouble makers and the ..****bums. Now most of the young cops come from the middle class and the suburbs. Leave the police service at about 43 and go to some corporation or to a clean suburb....I don't blame them nor do I begrudge them, however the big cities are suffering for lack of experienced coppers that have a stake in the area they patrol. I am as guilty as anyone else.. I got to the place I sort of missed the old time gangster types, a better class of criminals.....Sorry a old mans musings of times long past....
David LaPell
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I can tell you I have been seeing it for the last few years. I watch some of the families of our inmates come in and see how these people tell their kids whose fault it is because they're seeing Dad behind plexiglass. They blame the cops. I have watched parents from upscale neighborhoods tell their kid who just stole something that wasn't his, or got caught with pot or something else, or was a good old fashioned idiot that it was the cop who put him there because they had nothing better to do than roust a kid. One of the biggest problems this country has is that "It's someone elses fault." Sell drugs, its the environment they were brought up in or the color of their skin, they couldn't help it. If they're caught stealing, its a shame but they need to support their drug habit and understand how hard life is for them. In the case of the cop shooting the teen who happened to have an AK-47 lookalike gun and was dumb enough to turn and point it at the cop, if you read the comments on the news site and the local residents, the cop should have known better, shot the kid in the arm or something and he should be strung up. We don't live in America anymore, at least not the one I remember. The America I grew up in someone would have driven a septic truck up to that makeshift memorial, backed it onto the sidewalk and hit "flush".
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Because, that is the crutch they use for their actions. They grew up poor - so they are entitled to rob, steal, cheat to get whatever they want and then escalate to armed robbery, car jacking, and eventually graduate to murder but it's ok because they grew up poor and if given one more chance - Mr./Ms. gangster will make good and become a model citizen - your Honor.
george minze
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Much to similar......Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.. Or words to that meaning.....I dread watching FOX news in the morning..Not because I don't trust it, but because I do.....Rome is burning!!!The Fire Department is undermanned....Why? Underfunded of course....Christians and Jews get ready for the lions........We have allowed our-self to become the victims...Almost with out a fight....Sound familiar?
It's nothing really new. People who knew Jessie James thought of him as a hero, and many others. We all know about the car bandits of the 1920's, because a lot of people thought the banks were the real bad guys. In the depression, membership skyrocketed in the American Communist Party and the American Bund. Many Americans were ready to scrap democracy. Now, we have all the same types, but we have much more media to tell us about it, along with left-wing channels and websites to scare us, and right wing channels and websites to tell us our fears are justified. Life goes on.
BigBill
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Kids watch way too much tv while growing up.
Kids play way too much video games while growing up.
Kids get reality and what's entertainment mixed up.
Too much pressure is put on kids to further there education some are headed for a meltdown. Failure is unacceptable but when we fail it should actually make us stronger if it's in our DNA.
It's so easy to blame someone else for your mistakes.
Accept your own errors and deal with it.
Society isn't prepared to deal with the kids who aren't educated up to the standards. There's nothing wrong with a hard working high school grad.
These kids have no hope, no goals in life, no positive direction given to them when growing up. Then they end up behind bars when they get older.
We had cub scouts, boy scouts, boys clubs, YMCA, Catholic CYO growing up. What do the kids have now? Idle hands means trouble.
My son's and his friends one night got in trouble for playing basket ball at a local school at 10pm one night. If the leo didn't recognise my last name as being on there pay check the kids would of been busted. My misses was the town's controller.
There's no place for these kids to hang out and be kids.
Even at 18yo I remember being moved from place to place we had no place to just hang out. We were a mixed group of have and have most a mix of those who had rich parents and some who just made ends meet. We all respected each other and shared the wealth. I remember one night the eight of us had enough money together for a piece of pizza and a coke. We were happy to have that. It's was our race cars that kept us broke but we were happy. These metal high horsepower behemoths cost more to feed than we did.
These kids have no interests to fuel them today.
Where's the stock car races? Where's the drive- in movies?
Where's the local greasy spoons? The little greasy spoons where we could get a cheeseburger deluxe? Probably many don't even know what that was?
Everything has changed from the 50's & 60's when I grew up.
We hung out together, we went to the drive-ins, we went fishing together day and night, we ate together. We were always doing something.
On a down side we had us gear heads, the guys who drank and the ones who did drugs. The three groups of guys did there own thing. Back then we lost many of the ones who did drugs. We were all friends from grammar school most of us. It's very sad how some lives turned out. Most of us knew right from wrong.
My point is what do the kids have today while growing up?
Sponge Bob isn't cutting it. South park?
We had Leave it to Beaver family tv shows now we have CSI Crime shows or zombies to watch.
I see towns and cities do not want to raise taxes they want them lowered so they cut taxes, eliminate any youth programs first. Now we reap what we sew.
Kids play way too much video games while growing up.
Kids get reality and what's entertainment mixed up.
Too much pressure is put on kids to further there education some are headed for a meltdown. Failure is unacceptable but when we fail it should actually make us stronger if it's in our DNA.
It's so easy to blame someone else for your mistakes.
Accept your own errors and deal with it.
Society isn't prepared to deal with the kids who aren't educated up to the standards. There's nothing wrong with a hard working high school grad.
These kids have no hope, no goals in life, no positive direction given to them when growing up. Then they end up behind bars when they get older.
We had cub scouts, boy scouts, boys clubs, YMCA, Catholic CYO growing up. What do the kids have now? Idle hands means trouble.
My son's and his friends one night got in trouble for playing basket ball at a local school at 10pm one night. If the leo didn't recognise my last name as being on there pay check the kids would of been busted. My misses was the town's controller.
There's no place for these kids to hang out and be kids.
Even at 18yo I remember being moved from place to place we had no place to just hang out. We were a mixed group of have and have most a mix of those who had rich parents and some who just made ends meet. We all respected each other and shared the wealth. I remember one night the eight of us had enough money together for a piece of pizza and a coke. We were happy to have that. It's was our race cars that kept us broke but we were happy. These metal high horsepower behemoths cost more to feed than we did.
These kids have no interests to fuel them today.
Where's the stock car races? Where's the drive- in movies?
Where's the local greasy spoons? The little greasy spoons where we could get a cheeseburger deluxe? Probably many don't even know what that was?
Everything has changed from the 50's & 60's when I grew up.
We hung out together, we went to the drive-ins, we went fishing together day and night, we ate together. We were always doing something.
On a down side we had us gear heads, the guys who drank and the ones who did drugs. The three groups of guys did there own thing. Back then we lost many of the ones who did drugs. We were all friends from grammar school most of us. It's very sad how some lives turned out. Most of us knew right from wrong.
My point is what do the kids have today while growing up?
Sponge Bob isn't cutting it. South park?
We had Leave it to Beaver family tv shows now we have CSI Crime shows or zombies to watch.
I see towns and cities do not want to raise taxes they want them lowered so they cut taxes, eliminate any youth programs first. Now we reap what we sew.
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venomballistics
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I can't give this the six pack of likes it deserves.
Most folks seem to make the mistake of attempting to rationalize the irrational mind.
be the cause of that irrationality, genetics, cultural, environmental, historical or chemical, the end result is largely the same. you put in meat and potatoes and purple comes out.
there is no sense to be made of the problem.
These social media types - both left and right wing will never agree on anything because it is against the basic premise of why they are there - to make millions of $$$ spreading their own message of hate, lies and personal agenda to further their own wealth. I don't care which one you watch - it's all the same and predicated building their own personal wealth.
They never offer a solution or even a compromise - their job is to intensify a particular problem and point a finger at "the other side" to blame them. The electronic media is very good at doing just that and getting the viewer to buy into it and the sad point is we are - hook, line, and sinker
1915 "The Birth of a Nation" by D. W. Griffith, the KKK are the heroes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEznh2JZvrI
Let's not forget, that we, ourselves are partly to blame, also. The memberships of service organizations that sponsored many youth and local social programs throughout our country are only a fraction of they once were. Lions, Kiawanis, Shriners, Jaycees, and many other fine groups have done so very much for our country. Now, everybody's too "busy" to help their community. Hmph.
Doug M.
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You don't know the half of it. That deputy is a friend of mine, and a squared away professional. He has been treated shabbily by all sorts of people. Not just the family of the deceased, which is understandable, but by elected officials of his county, jerks on the 'net who don't know what they don't know but want to say it (if I had ever been inclined to join or participate on ARFcom, I got over it when I read the filth there spewing their stupid - I lost IQ points at a rate that would make Billy Madison cringe
), media maggots, etc. 
Some of it has been knowingly false, but some of these people are not smart enough to be dishonest. As a judge friend of mine says, "It takes thought to have a bad mens rea."Anyone who wants to know what the reality of a shooting incident is should read the investigative summary from the DA's Office there: http://dig.abclocal.go.com/kgo/PDF/Complete-OIS-Report-7-7-14.pdf. Hmm. It pasted the whole blessed document in, which was not my intention - among other things, it makes the font really small. I'll put the URL here with a small change so you can got to it. http://dig.abclocal.go(dot)com/kgo/PDF/Complete-OIS-Report-7-7-14.pdf. Change the "(dot) to a "." and you should be good to go.
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george minze
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Flush has a ring to it......
99savage308
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This country is going to H*** in a hand basket. Better load up on ammo,food,whiskey,first aid supplies,beer any thing else one can think of. The welfare rats, low lifes and hood rats are taking over. Thanks to a certain mine set in this country. All of the above is based on what I see and hear in my dreams. Not to be confused with this station or web place or this state of affairs. Thank you one and all and may God bless us one and all.
finesse_r
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Gents, over 100 posts most of which say how bad people can be. Let me be clear, not all of us hate cops. Many still respect what you do and have done.
I for one would help you without hesitation.
I for one would help you without hesitation.
