Something different: A Consumer TASER

[Muss Muggins]

"I suppose it is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail."

Maslow, 1966

 

[Kronos]

In my state, the use of a Taser can be equivalent to deadly force, you could be shot if you pulled it on the wrong guy. (pull one a LEO and watch )

BTW - ....'tuning someone up....' will likely get you charged criminally in places. Legitimate self defense is one thing, but the desire to 'tune-up' another human being could be criminal....it is far easier to walk away....

Not every self defense is going to need lethal force,I always try to get away but I know that the possibility to do something that doesn't involve shooting the aggressor may happen.

The big thing for me is this:do they have a weapon? if the answer is no and I can't get away and they're very obviously not gonna stop until they beat me to a pulp? well I gotta do something but that something is not reaching for a gun.

They bring a weapon into it and all bets are off,somebody is going out on a stretcher all leaky and full of extra holes.

That's just my mind set.

 

[xray97]

"I suppose it is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail."

Maslow, 1966

True. That's why it's imperative if you're going to carry a hammer that you have the knowledge of when a hammer can be used (legally in your location), the self control to only use the hammer when YOU feel it is necessary, and can articulate why you felt it was necessary and reasonable.
I'm not the maintenance or repairman so I shouldn't have to walk around in a fully stocked tool belt. If a minor repair is needed I'll call and let someone else handle the problem.

 

[Whitwabit]

If your getting beaten to a pulp wouldn't you fear for your life ??

Think I would .. and I'm sure others would also ..

I know my brother would .. The reason .. My brother has an aneurism on his aorta that they have told him is too small to operate on yet .. if he was being struck in the stomach I'm sure he would fear for his life because it could cause it to rupture .. whether it actually would or not I don't know but I'm sure it is not chance he would want to take .. we have discussed just that scenario ..

 

[SAFireman]

Not every self defense is going to need lethal force,I always try to get away but I know that the possibility to do something that doesn't involve shooting the aggressor may happen.

The big thing for me is this:do they have a weapon? if the answer is no and I can't get away and they're very obviously not gonna stop until they beat me to a pulp? well I gotta do something but that something is not reaching for a gun.

They bring a weapon into it and all bets are off,somebody is going out on a stretcher all leaky and full of extra holes.

That's just my mind set.

See post #20

I would rather not partake in a physical altercation and risk losing control of a firearm, or find that the other guy has a knife while we are grappling.

 

[noonster]

Re: bear usage. I asked them about that years back and was told that the major problem with bears it they can have a LOT of hair to shoot through. It'd be best if you could shave it's belly then shoot it there.

 

[JJEH]

I can say that, having several unsuccessful taser deployments during arrests, I don't fully trust tasers. I've got about a 75% rate with these. I do, however, have a much better success rate with pepper spray. I carry a can occasionally when I jog.

Also, I really like the lasting effect of pepper spray, even when the target has been "decontaminated". Still burns for most of an hour. With a taser, when the switch is turned off, the "ride" is over. I think that gives pepper spray a better deterrent factor if someone encounters another person wielding it again. Maybe they will remember the burn. There are those people in society (10%?) that aren't affected by pepper spray, so those aren't 100% either. I guess it comes to carrying what you are comfortable and proficient with and hope you don't get one of the people that aren't affected by less-lethal.

Couldn't agree more!!

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Cops don't have the option of walking away. Having choices for subduing for arrest make sense.

I'm not a cop. A taser isn't going to replace gun carry, so that would mean carrying both a gun and a taser. No thanks. Some believe a BUG is worthy, so that would mean two guns and a taser. But what if the taser fails? Need a BUT too?

I think I'll just drop an LCP in my pocket and go about my day.

 

[Watchdog]

A taser isn't going to replace gun carry, so that would mean carrying both a gun and a taser. No thanks. Some believe a BUG is worthy, so that would mean two guns and a taser. But what if the taser fails? Need a BUT too?

Don't forget the body armor, too!