sorry guys

[RobzGuns]

The Glock is not more accurate, it's you that are more accurate with that gun. I wouldn't dream of talking someone out of a gun they shoot better. This is after all the goal, find the gun you shoot best.

Exactly. For some, the Glock's grip angle and low axis results in better grouping and accuracy. For others, it just doesn't work. It definitely works for you and that's what counts.

I like the grip angle of the Glock. It allows me to 'lock in' my wrists easier.
... but I can shoot my Shield9 just as well as my G26, so I carry the Shield.

 

[Arik]

You don't have to be sorry. I tried most of the M&P line and didn't care for them. To me the perfect carry gun is the G19. That being said I would be a HK fan boy if it weren't for their prices

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[fbcmrjrtykr]

I shot my son-in-laws Glock 19 the other day. Very tight shot groupings. Do I regret owning my SD40VE? Absolutely not. Different caliber sand, as others have said, different niche. I'd be happy to own either.


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[Aircrewman]

I believe Modeler is on to something with his post, as well as Robzguns and Rastoff to a similar extent. One: caliber. The 9mm can be an extremely accurate caliber. Two: gun style/grip angle.
You went from a 40 to a 9. And additionally you changed the gun feel as it sits in your hand. Grips, and their accompanying "feel" in the shooters hand can make a world of difference in the shooters ability to hit the target. For example, I cannot use the large, beautifully styled and manufactured, Smith and Wesson wooden grips.... They just don't help me. Put a set of small Pachmyar's on the gun or a set of Hogue's and I can't miss.

Caliber makes a difference too. The 9 can be wonderfully accurate and most times is. The 40, on the other hand, seems to be adequate but not overly exacting, in my opinion. Just my experience. That may have made quite some difference for you in this example of your experience with the two different guns and their respective calibers. All in all I think that's your experience as so many of the other posters have noted in this thread. When I was instructing my department, I saw many of the different kinds of shooters we all see. Fortunately, my department allowed officers to choose between a variety of calibers (9, 40, 45) for autos. The department issue was a Glock but they could choose the caliber. Many times, I had to steer an officer to a particular caliber because they shot it better than others calibers. Same thing with guns. Your experience is typical.

No need to be sorry for better shooting!!!

 

[M&PmikeC]

I would like to say I agree with all of you... they didn't have a glock in 40 cal for me to rent just the 9 and that's why I fired that one... I would also like to see if the 40 glock would be as accurate as the 9 was for me... would benefit me if I did buy another 40 in glock, 40 cal ammo is the same regardless correct ? I have a ton of 40 s&w ammo ...

 

[OldCat]

I agree to get them both.

I have a Glock G19 and a S&W Shield in 9mm. I shoot both equally well, one is no more accurate than the other. Now my Colt 1911 Series 70 is a pleasure to shot but I'm as accurate with it as the other two and my .357 wheel gun. Now the one gun I shoot the best and most consistently is my High Standard Victor .22LR (no felt recoil).

All are accurate.

 

[Rastoff]

I agree to get them both.

If you just shoot for fun, then get both. If you shoot for competition or self-defense, then I'd counsel against owning these two guns. Well, you could keep one for fun and the other for serious shooting.

The reason is the grip angle.

If a shooter uses an M&P and practices with it a lot, they will typically have trouble at first with a Glock. The reverse is the same. Why? The grip angle. Because the Glock has a more angled grip, it points differently. I'm not going to say it's wrong, but it is different.

When practicing with either gun, muscle memory will eventually be developed. Ultimately, a shooter will find one gun better than the other. However, when switching between them, the gun not used as much will be slower to get on target and more difficult to be accurate with.

 

[Nevadadvx]

Lol. I just posted a thread like this on the Beretta forum. I sold my last one to get my fullsized M&P and have extra $$'s. I didn't say sorry though. You shouldn't either. People's tastes change.

I saw your post over there, and believe I even responded to it as SeventyGTX. I sold my G19 Gen4 in favor of my newly acquired 92FS Inox compact. Still have my M&P and doubt I will ever sell it as it just fits my hand so well and is easy to take down.

But I am more accurate with the Beretta than either the Glock or M&P. I would have kept the Glock, but used it to fund another compact Beretta. This time a black 92fs compact. I swear no allegiance to any brand, just enjoy the ones that work best for me.

 

[Venenoindy]

ive decided to jump ship, Don't get me wrong I love my M&P 40 full size love love love it... But I went to the range this afternoon and decided im going to try something else and picked up a generation 4 glock 19 9mm I was shocked, literally shocked how much more accurate I was with the glock over my s&w... I actually shot them side by side.. 15 thru one then 15 thru the other at same distances the glock was obviously more accurate... I have 0ver a 1000 rds thru my m&p and never shot a glock before today.. How can 2 guns be so completely different... the m&p feels better in my hands but the glock was smoother, dunno... going to own them both now though either way ...

You will be back trust me.

 

[rfreyta]

I have a Glock 19 that I absolutely love for all the reasons you do. However, Glock does not have a single stack 9 which I really wanted for EDC. I got a lot of recommendations for the Shield so I bought one. It is perfect for what I want, these guns coexist just fine.


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[Grail Knight]

Pick the pistol you shoot best with & ensure it is reliable as that will be the one you hopefully never need to save your life or the lives of others but if it happens the firearm will function and you will hit the mark.

 

[dajogejr]

Don't be sorry...what works for you works for you.
I went to the range a couple months ago with a buddy from the Detroit Police... he brought his Gen 3 G19.
It really, really did shoot nice...
I honestly like the fit/feel of the MP better than Glocks, personal preference all the way.

 

[DocSunShine]

doc sun shine.... My m&p has a storm lake polished 40 barrel, apex alum trigger kit with the 3 1/2 lb pull and ive been shooting it like I said 1000 rounds.. my groups from 5 to 25yards are fairly tight... Obviously at 5 to 10 yards I can group round after round just outside or mainly inside the center target...10yards plus the groups become staggered all inside the 3 rings of center... But today with the glock from 5 yards to 25 yards I was either missing the target or putting round after round after round thru center mass and slightly enlarging the previous hole shot after shot... I then thought NO cant be and picked up my gun again and the shot points were same as always staggered outside 10 yards... Like I said the glock doesn't feel as comfortable in my hands, Im a mechanic I have medium sized hands that are well callus but the gun shot true at where I was holding it... I dunno hard to explain but when I was done firing 200 rds today I was very impressed with the rental gun...

I'm not surprised, I don't know if 9mm is more inherently accurate or if the vast majority of people happen to shoot 9mm more accurately than .40. I suspect you'd also be less accurate with a G23 and more accurate with a 9mm M&P or M&P with 9mm conversion barrel.... Either way the G19 is a fine gun and you'll do well with it. I like Glocks, I just happen to like M&Ps a a bit better.

 

[leejack]

It's all good! I like my SD9ve, perfect ergos, accurate and reliable.

 

[Rastoff]

I don't know if 9mm is more inherently accurate or if the vast majority of people happen to shoot 9mm more accurately than .40.

This is a good observation. I'll bet it's the latter.

I suspect that people struggle with the sharp recoil from the .40S&W more. Because they anticipate less recoil, the 9mm allows the shooter to relax more and this improves accuracy.

I don't believe that one is inherently more accurate than the other by virtue of caliber.

 

[ladder13]

That's ok, it's all good. I recently sold my much heralded, overrated ,4506-1 R3, never really liked the way it sat in my hands or it's size, for a real nice 627-0 5 1/2 inch revolver. But they make great sledge hammers.
Revolvers are my first love anyways, so no big loss. Besides, I have my 1911's.

 

[DocSunShine]

15 head shots from my M&P 40 with storm lakes 9mm conversion barrel at 15 yards off hand. 15 shots to center mass with the Glock 19 today at 15 yards off hand. I shot both guns today, my father shot both as well and he shot the M&P better as well...

 

[the other Rick M]

to each his own. hope you are happy with it, sounds like you will be. glocks are good guns, no doubt...but I am the exact opposite as you. I would not take ANY glock for free, if I had to keep it and shoot it. I hate the grip angle, and the 2x4 look of the glocks, and I cannot shoot them for ****(I blame the bad{for me} grip angle. they are obviously great guns, a lot of people swear by them...but they are not for everyone. they are tough as nails too, and that is always nice...dependable, a must...good thing they don't have to be pretty to shoot well though! lol, good luck and I hope you are happy with your new gun. no need to be sorry, shoot what ya like. shoot strait and good luck with your new venture.

 

[wws1950]

I own both. The Glocks aren't pretty but they do shoot well and usually all the time.

 

[USMarine1989]

ive decided to jump ship, Don't get me wrong I love my M&P 40 full size love love love it... But I went to the range this afternoon and decided im going to try something else and picked up a generation 4 glock 19 9mm I was shocked, literally shocked how much more accurate I was with the glock over my s&w... I actually shot them side by side.. 15 thru one then 15 thru the other at same distances the glock was obviously more accurate... I have 0ver a 1000 rds thru my m&p and never shot a glock before today.. How can 2 guns be so completely different... the m&p feels better in my hands but the glock was smoother, dunno... going to own them both now though either way ...

Mike, I too own Glocks, and shoot my Duty G-37 well. Still love my M&P Pro9 and trying to figure it out, different weapons for different applications.