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I am currently camping where there is no cell signal at all. But, we got it a Starlink setup and I can cruise the net and make phone calls when I am taking a break from fishing. Wife can get her work stuff taken care of from the middle of nowhere. Easy setup . Happy camper so far
 
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So many I can’t remember or recover all of them.
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We have Starlink here at the house. Cable and fiber aren't available. All we could get before Starlink was ATT ADSL at a maximum or 2.7 mbps down and about 256 kbps up. Starlink speed varies some, I guess due to the available satellite. But it's always way faster than what we had. Let me check: 99.80mbps down and 23.50mbps up. Speedtest by Ookla - The Global Broadband Speed Test

It may not be fast to those of you in areas where you get unthrottled fiber but I'm very thankful to Elon.
 
Just canceled mine. Fiber to the home is only a couple weeks away. Costs will be less than half for 3 times more performance. Starlink is great when there are no alternatives or if your gig is rolling around the great outdoors, perpetually camping out of cell signal.

Personally think Elon is a douchebag alien from outta space...
 
We have Starlink here at the house. Cable and fiber aren't available. All we could get before Starlink was ATT ADSL at a maximum or 2.7 mbps down and about 256 kbps up. Starlink speed varies some, I guess due to the available satellite. But it's always way faster than what we had. Let me check: 99.80mbps down and 23.50mbps up. Speedtest by Ookla - The Global Broadband Speed Test

It may not be fast to those of you in areas where you get unthrottled fiber but I'm very thankful to Elon.

That's way faster than what I pay for/need here. Just the two of us and not being gamers means that ~30 Mbps down and ~6 up is plenty.
 
I am not a big Musk fan either way, but this works
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The wife still works and can do the majority of it remotely. There are lots of great areas in Montana that don't have any cell service at all. But with this we can be anywhere we want and she can do her work. Right now we are in the Missouri river Breaks on the Charles Russell Reserve. Full fishing. You never know what you're going to catch next. Catfish, burbot, sturgeon, sauger, Walleye, Small mouth, turtle, northern, drum, carp, shad, plus you can trap crawdads galore. Wee.

Yes it is more than other services, but it comes with freedom and once hunting season is over, we can shut it off until we want to start camping in the spring.
 
I am not a big Musk fan either way, but this works
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The wife still works and can do the majority of it remotely. There are lots of great areas in Montana that don't have any cell service at all. But with this we can be anywhere we want and she can do her work. Right now we are in the Missouri river Breaks on the Charles Russell Reserve. Full fishing. You never know what you're going to catch next. Catfish, burbot, sturgeon, sauger, Walleye, Small mouth, turtle, northern, drum, carp, shad, plus you can trap crawdads galore. Wee.

Yes it is more than other services, but it comes with freedom and once hunting season is over, we can shut it off until we want to start camping in the spring.

Yeah, if you're in a must-have-it situation and you need it to go wherever you go - including areas where cell service is poor or non-existant - then the monthly rate doesn't sound too bad.
We pay more than that for our xFinity services - but that includes landline and TV in addition to internet.
Sounds like there's some really good fishin' where you are. I'm jealous.
 
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Elon is strange, but most of the visionaries are at the least quirky. He has done a lot, and I am sure he will not disappoint us in the future.

Those speeds are really good for a satellite provider.

On a side note, I had never seen the satellites go by the house before. One night the wife and I saw a string of lights that resembled several International Space stations in a row moving across the sky.  I thought I had finally seen a UFO, nope it was a Starlink satellite. Pretty cool to see.

Glad you are mobile while the wife is still working.
 
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Elon is strange, but most of the visionaries are at the least quirky. He has done a lot, and I am sure he will not disappoint us in the future.

Those speeds are really good for a satellite provider.

On a side note, I had never seen the satellites go by the house before. One night the wife and I saw a string of lights that resembled several International Space stations in a row moving across the sky.  I thought I had finally seen a UFO, nope it was a Starlink satellite. Pretty cool to see.

Glad you are mobile while the wife is still working.
If you get far enough away from major population centers you can see the StarLink satellites. We sat on my buddy's deck in Washougal Washington and watched a string of them pass overhead.
Elon's vision is to build a geodesic "net" of them surrounding the globe to make StarLink accessible from every inhabited part of the planet.
 
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I watch Elon's rockets go up about once a week. Watching his boosters return with such perfection is astounding. That he can do that repeatedly is even more astounding. It's like the Navy pilot who always catches the number three arresting cable. An exception to the rule.
 
Presently there are about 6000 Starlink satellites in low earth orbit of a planned total of around 34,000. The plan is to use them all in conjunction with the supermega xAI computer to be built in Memphis. The idea is to have an unimaginably (for today) huge computer with absolutely unlimited capacity and capabilities, linked by satellites into everything, everyone, and everyplace on earth and that computer will do and control everything imaginable. And that is not idle speculation or science fiction. Every human will ultimately be somehow inseparably tied into it.
 
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Presently there are about 6000 Starlink satellites in low earth orbit of a planned total of around 34,000. The plan is to use them all in conjunction with the supermega xAI computer to be built in Memphis. The idea is to have an unimaginably (for today) large computer with absolutely unlimited capacity and capabilities, linked by satellites into everything, everyone, and everyplace on earth and that computer will do and control everything imaginable. And that is not idle speculation or science fiction. Every human will ultimately be tied into it.

WOW! That really does sound like a Sci-Fi vision of the future - or maybe even something right out of Revelations!

While I don't doubt or dispute what you are saying, a lot of people might view your statements as being somewhat hyperbolic.

Though anyone who has been paying attention knows that Elon has made no secret of his trans-humanistic ideologies.

So, please share the links and other information that you have, that expose Elon Musk's plans for the StarLink satellite network, and the AI that will control it, to basically assume control over and enslave all of humanity.

Seriously. I'm fascinated by this idea and want to learn more about Elon's plans for our future. You seem to know more about this subject than I do, so please share...
 
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We have had Starlink for several years now and are quite pleased with it. Previously, we lost Wi-Fi and phone service very quickly whenever there was a power failure - which happens a lot here. Very isolated poorly maintained REC-dependent area. The phones go down after a few hours when the battery runs out in the local roadside phone exchange box. No cell towers close enough for normal cell service. We have a heavy duty generator, so Starlink/Wi-Fi/wife's new super cell-phone keeps us OK now no matter what.
 

A new system that employs 100,000 Nvidia GPUs (graphics processing units) to be used to train the new xAI is certainly quite a milestone, but if that is the metric that we use to measure the threat, then it appears (from the info in the article) that Zuckerberg may be a much bigger threat.

He's placed orders for 350,000 Nvidia GPUs - 3-1/2 times as many as what Musk is buying to build his new xAI.

From what I know of the two of them, and their history, to me, Zuckerberg seems to be a much bigger threat to our freedom than Musk.

I may be wrong, it certainly wouldn't be the first time. :)
 
I have no frame of reference as to what 100,000 GPUs is capable of doing. Let alone 350,000 GPUs. Then what? A million? 10 Million? Is there an upper limit? At what point do humans become superfluous?
 
I have no frame of reference as to what 100,000 GPUs is capable of doing. Let alone 350,000 GPUs. Then what? A million? 10 Million? Is there an upper limit? At what point do humans become superfluous?
Yeah, that was pretty much my point.

This is going to get a bit long, so forgive me, BUT....

IMO, the article you linked is hyperbolic click-bait that throws around a lot of big numbers and insider jargon that most people don't really understand - in an attempt to get people all worked up.

GPUs are computer chips that are specifically designed and optimized to process images. Your laptop or desktop computer has one to enhance the speed and quality of images displayed on your screen.

The graphics power of a GPU can also be used to do the opposite - to "look" at and analyze graphics and images - in order to extract information from them. Facial recognition systems are one example of how this works.

As I understand what I read in the article you linked, it is basically saying that Musk is building a new supercomputer - built with a lot of GPUs. The idea is to create a computer that is focused on scanning and analyzing digital images, and the goal is for this new xAI to be able to learn to analyze, interpret, and extract data from the vast number of digital images that are already available online.

In other words, Elon Musk is trying to build an AI computer that can "learn" from looking at pictures. This is the next logical step beyond the current generation of AI computers that can only "read", analyze, and "learn" from WRITTEN materials online.

FWIW, as I see it, that article is just an attempt to get attention (and "clicks" and ad revenue) by crying WOLF regarding advances in AI.

Don't get me wrong, I'm just as leery of the potential pitfalls of a TRUE, self-aware, artificial intelligence as anyone. But IMO, what is now being called AI is just a faster, more powerful search engine with more data available to search. It is still a LONG way from being a self-aware, sentient, intelligence.

I recently read that ChatGP is returning completely nonsensical results because a part of how it is formulating its responses are based on tallying the number of "upvotes" (a.k.a. the number of "likes") for questions posted on sites like Quora and Google.

One example I read about was a question about the best ingredients to make marinara spaghetti sauce. When someone asked that question, someone else posted a completely nonsensical tongue-in-cheek response suggesting that gasoline would be a good ingredient to add to the sauce.

Then a lot of people "upvoted" the suggestion to add gasoline - because they found it amusing.

But ChatGP didn't recognize the humor that was being injected into the conversation. It took the "upvotes" at face value and because it was a popular answer, it began recommending gasoline as an ingredient in marinara spaghetti sauce.

Is that true intelligence - real or artificial? I don't think so. It is just another example of the GIGO principle. GIGO=Garbage In Garbage Out.

A computer "intelligence" is only as "smart" as the info it's programmers are feeding into it, or allowing it to access.

Adding the ability to search and interpret digital images (in addition to digital written data) may be a step towards a true artificial intelligence, but in reality it is just a more sophisticated form of search engine. True computer intelligence is still a long ways off - assuming it is even possible to begin with.

I kinda doubt that it is possible. How can the created be greater than the creator? Seems illogical to me. But it makes good Sci-Fi and creates fear - which is good for the 24-hour news cycle media circus.

JMO, and YMMV.
 
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I am not a big Musk fan either way, but this works
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The wife still works and can do the majority of it remotely. There are lots of great areas in Montana that don't have any cell service at all. But with this we can be anywhere we want and she can do her work. Right now we are in the Missouri river Breaks on the Charles Russell Reserve. Full fishing. You never know what you're going to catch next. Catfish, burbot, sturgeon, sauger, Walleye, Small mouth, turtle, northern, drum, carp, shad, plus you can trap crawdads galore. Wee.

Yes it is more than other services, but it comes with freedom and once hunting season is over, we can shut it off until we want to start camping in the spring.

Paddlefish tag? A friend headed up last week. Also should be some goldeyes about.
 
I don't paddle fish on the Missouri, to many cast without much likely hood, Intake on the Yellowtone is better for that. We caught some shovel nose sturgeon a couple drum and channel cats along with some carp and goldeyes. Pleasant afternoons watching the river flow by.

I also taught a knot tying class to the scouts. I believe everyone should be able to tye some basic knots, square, bowline, clove, sheet bend, carrick bend lovers, packers hitch and the timber hitch will cover just about everything you need.


My one step daughter just completed the final Eagle scout requirements on this trip.

Plus, when we got home we were rewarded for me letting the grass go
by seeing one of the does laying in the high grass under the lilacs with her brand new fawn.:)
 
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I recently read that ChatGP is returning completely nonsensical results because a part of how it is formulating its responses are based on tallying the number of "upvotes" (a.k.a. the number of "likes") for questions posted on sites like Quora and Google.

One example I read about was a question about the best ingredients to make marinara spaghetti sauce. When someone asked that question, someone else posted a completely nonsensical tongue-in-cheek response suggesting that gasoline would be a good ingredient to add to the sauce.

Then a lot of people "upvoted" the suggestion to add gasoline - because they found it amusing

Is that true intelligence - real or artificial? I don't think so. It is just another example of the GIGO principle. GIGO=Garbage In Garbage Out.

A computer "intelligence" is only as "smart" as the info it's programmers are feeding into it, or allowing it to access.

Adding the ability to search and interpret digital images (in addition to digital written data) may be a step towards a true artificial intelligence, but in reality it is just a more sophisticated form of search engine. True computer intelligence is still a long ways off - assuming it is even possible to begin with.
Things like nonsensical answers, etc. are simply early stage AI issues. They, and similar shortcomings, WILL be overcome in fairly short order. Technology evolution is inevitable as technology builds upon itself. And advancements usually happen much faster than anyone anticipates. All the signals are there. We are entering into the rapid widespread adoption phase where finding new uses for AI begin in a very big way. Think back to the dawn of cell phones and PCs in the 1980s. That is comparable to where AI is today.
 
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