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Ah but computers are gaining access to all human data bases, not just chess data bases. Just as the chess example shows they don't need to necessarily create any thought or knowledge to over come us with it. There is no way for a human brain or even a groups of human brains to access and process terabytes of information like large computers can.

I knew what a terabyte was, I used to laugh my Commandor 64 had more power than the IBM 1401 I started on, then my first Pentium I souped up to 128K of ram. My current desk top does have a Terra byte and 32 gigs of ram

The human brain is figured to be able to store and access 2.5 million gigs, but has difficulty accessing and processing it all at computer speeds. Computers have gone farther in 50 years than humans have in 300,000, why do you think it will end?

Life forms evolve and leave others in their wake,
why is it impossible for humans to leave a silicon based life form in place of out carbon bases one?


Make sense?

Somehow the old movie "Colossus: The Forbin Project" pops up in my thoughts!
 
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Anyhow my point was that what was thought of as impossible for computers just 55 years ago was achieved in less than 5o, why would anyone believe that what is though impossible now will not be achieved in another 50

Human knowledge has increase at a exponential rate, not linear, computer development has been the same. It took countless centuries to go from the club to the spear, fewer to go from the spear to the bow, then the bow to the cannon, just 150 to cartridge rifles, 50 to the machine gun, and less than 50 to the atomic bomb. The first airplane went a few hundred yards just 120 years ago, 45 year later they went supersonic, 29 years after that man went into space and just 8 years later landed on the moon. Now our planet is encircled by satellites.

The telegraph was invented in 1832, the first phone in the 1850s, operators were replaced by electronics 120 years later. Cell phones networks became common less than 20 years later and now I can call and send video almost anywhere in the world from anywhere.

My great great grandfather "talk over wires? Impossible it can't be done" My great grand father never imagined TV, to him video was the magic in movie theaters. My grand father never imagined a cell phone, Now we can talk and see live video almost anywhere on a wireless device that fits in our hand.
 
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Ah but computers are gaining access to all human data bases, not just chess data bases. Just as the chess example shows they don't need to necessarily create any thought or knowledge to over come us with it. There is no way for a human brain or even a groups of human brains to access and process terabytes of information like large computers can.

I knew what a terabyte was, I used to laugh my Commandor 64 had more power than the IBM 1401 I started on, then my first Pentium I souped up to 128K of ram. My current desk top does have a Terra byte and 32 gigs of ram

The human brain is figured to be able to store and access 2.5 million gigs, but has difficulty accessing and processing it all at computer speeds. Computers have gone farther in 50 years than humans have in 300,000, why do you think it will end?

Life forms evolve and leave others in their wake, why is it impossible for humans to leave a silicon based life form in place of out carbon bases one?


Make sense?
IMO, no. Computers are not alive by any definition so they cannot "evolve". They are designed and built by HUMAN intelligence and as the tool improves PEOPLE can use them to build better tools. But they are still conceived, designed, and built employing human intelligence - not their own intelligence.
I still don't believe the created can exceed the creator.
But I've gone about as far in explaining WHY I believe computers won't become sentient without veering into forbidden topics.
So I'll just leave it at that.
 
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Look at all the hostile players in the world today. And many of them are pretty good at keeping up with both hardware and software development.
 
There was a piece about this man last night on the CBS 60 Minutes episode. The '''Godfather of A.I.''' Now Warns of Its Dangers | Smithsonian It was fascinating as he strongly believes that it is inevitable that there will be independent learning and reasoning computers and machines in the not so distant future, In fact, crude ones exist at present. One thing he spoke about was a pair of robots that actually learned on their own how to play soccer by trial and error without human assistance. They showed the robots playing soccer with each other and it was eerie watching them as they were so human-like in their movements.There was also an example of a program which wrote a detailed story that was extremely human-like and logical in its structure after being given only a few words as a topic. The interviewer couldn't believe that such a thing was possible without a human imagination being involved.
 
There was a piece about this man last night on the CBS 60 Minutes episode. The '''Godfather of A.I.''' Now Warns of Its Dangers | Smithsonian It was fascinating as he strongly believes that it is inevitable that there will be independent learning and reasoning computers and machines in the not so distant future, In fact, crude ones exist at present. One thing he spoke about was a pair of robots that actually learned on their own how to play soccer by trial and error without human assistance. They showed the robots playing soccer with each other and it was eerie watching them as they were so human-like in their movements.There was also an example of a program which wrote a detailed story that was extremely human-like and logical in its structure after being given only a few words as a topic. The interviewer couldn't believe that such a thing was possible without a human imagination being involved.

This brought to mind an old comic book "Magnus, Robot Fighter". Set in the far future, Magnus was an orphan baby boy taken in by a sentient robot and trained to have the strength to be able to destroy robots with his bare hands. Robots were supposedly all subject to a command to never harm humans but that sometimes failed to stop rogue robots from trying to take over humanity, thus creating the need for an ultimate robot stopper. Maybe I'll pull some of those out and read them again.
 
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