Wearing a mask is not a law. Allowing a service animal is, first time they deny a service animal they will find out the hard way.
Starting Monday, Costco will require customers to wear masks!UPDATE # 81
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Wearing a mask is not a law. Allowing a service animal is, first time they deny a service animal they will find out the hard way.
CAJUNLAWYER
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"Wearing a mask is about protecting others not you." Bull shamu!!!
I've not seen empirical evidence supporting this. These masks as worn and produced just don't protect either you or others. They do not filter particles as small as the covid virus and the way they are worn leaves wayy too many gaps allowing free flow of air. Couple that with about half of the people wearing them not even covering their nose. It is feel good pablum to placate the masks.
Common sense is what protects you and others.
Be aware of what you touch. You catch most stuff from touching things and then touching your face
Don't cough on other people.
Stay away from unknown bodily fluids.
Do what your momma taught you.
Don't pick up and eat things you find on the floor.
As far as catching from asymptomatic infected people-again I throw a flag. I'm not in the habit of touching strange people and then touching their space or invading their space.
This is nothing more that a visible " I care" expression of solidarity saying that you feel covid is bad and I'm just not gonna play.
Wearing a mask gives you the same sense of false security as wearing a condom. If I feel the need to use either, I'm just not gonna go there. If I am told either wear it or don 't show up-then I have a decision to make but it is mine to make not the other party.
I've not seen empirical evidence supporting this. These masks as worn and produced just don't protect either you or others. They do not filter particles as small as the covid virus and the way they are worn leaves wayy too many gaps allowing free flow of air. Couple that with about half of the people wearing them not even covering their nose. It is feel good pablum to placate the masks.
Common sense is what protects you and others.
Be aware of what you touch. You catch most stuff from touching things and then touching your face
Don't cough on other people.
Stay away from unknown bodily fluids.
Do what your momma taught you.
Don't pick up and eat things you find on the floor.
As far as catching from asymptomatic infected people-again I throw a flag. I'm not in the habit of touching strange people and then touching their space or invading their space.
This is nothing more that a visible " I care" expression of solidarity saying that you feel covid is bad and I'm just not gonna play.
Wearing a mask gives you the same sense of false security as wearing a condom. If I feel the need to use either, I'm just not gonna go there. If I am told either wear it or don 't show up-then I have a decision to make but it is mine to make not the other party.
I totally agree with Caj, with one exception. which I am doing today. Red Cross blood donation. They want all donors to wear a mask while donating. I don't agree with the policy, but in this case, I will wear a mask. This is the first time during this pandemic I have worn a mask in public, probably the last until 56-60 days from now when I give blood again.
That happened to me on 4/26, but they wanted my temperature before I did any checks. Had to lift the mask up because they only use a mouth thermometer.......
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Nope, you are wrong
N95 mask does not filter particles as small as the Kung Flu virus.
N95 and all the makeshift alternatives are nothing more than Pandemic Theater. N95 and lesser masks are a costume when it comes to filtering out viruses, sort of luck the rubber pistols they hand to actors for a talky scene in whatever police procedural is currently running.
I guess it will make the ignorant goobers feel safer out and about. And the advocacy of them points out for all to see who has at least a minimal understanding of the technology.
N95 and all the makeshift alternatives are nothing more than Pandemic Theater. N95 and lesser masks are a costume when it comes to filtering out viruses, sort of luck the rubber pistols they hand to actors for a talky scene in whatever police procedural is currently running.
I guess it will make the ignorant goobers feel safer out and about. And the advocacy of them points out for all to see who has at least a minimal understanding of the technology.
Another good one [emoji16]
Puller
Member
Another good one [emoji16]
The thing is, not ALL or even most of the doctors and nurses are saying COVID is all that dangerous. Many are telling the truth based on their own experiences.
Some of the comments remind me of folks who were freaking out 20+ years ago about folks who had AIDS and afraid they'd catch it if they used the same urinals. Some folks are scared of what they don't understand.
My understanding of the mask is to prevent the wearer from spewing body fluid droplets out into the air where they could contaminate someone nearby. So my primary care doctor, my oncologist, as well as the radiation oncologist all are just not as smart as you. OK. If you go in for surgery and your surgeon refuses to wear a mask, is that OK with you ?
If your primary care doctor, oncologist and radiation oncologist are wearing bandana's, scarves, home made masks and contractors dust masks from the hardware store, like a MAJORITY of the happy mask wearers are, then I suggest you have bigger problems than Covid. His comment clearly was referring to those type of people.
"These masks as worn and produced just don't protect either you or others. They do not filter particles as small as the covid virus and the way they are worn leaves wayy too many gaps allowing free flow of air. Couple that with about half of the people wearing them not even covering their nose."
One doctor wears what looks like an N95, the other are wearing the same as my wife and me, hospital masks. We had accumulated several from my previous hospitalizations. So if he is talking about other than hospital masks only, then I can agree with that.
Hunter8282
US Veteran
Was not enforced at our local Costco yesterday.
It's amusing how irate some people get over others opinions.
1st: I don't shop @ Costco & have never bought anything there. They're cheaper if you buy in bulk & become your own warehouse. I prefer my cereal, etc. to be fresh, everyone I know who buys bulk has tons of out-of-date stale stuff sitting around.
2nd: I have asthma & if I wear a mask I don't get enough air & will pass out, not a good thing. It's the reason I worked outside all my life & am sitting in front of an open door w/ a fan running.
Can't wait to hear the comments/advice.
1st: I don't shop @ Costco & have never bought anything there. They're cheaper if you buy in bulk & become your own warehouse. I prefer my cereal, etc. to be fresh, everyone I know who buys bulk has tons of out-of-date stale stuff sitting around.
2nd: I have asthma & if I wear a mask I don't get enough air & will pass out, not a good thing. It's the reason I worked outside all my life & am sitting in front of an open door w/ a fan running.
Can't wait to hear the comments/advice.
Should you have the freedom to infect other people? Because that's the issue here...
The mask is not intended to protect you; it's intended to protect others from being exposed to your exhaled or expelled droplets. So: should you have the freedom to infect others?
And...since we're talking "freedom"...should a store owner have the freedom to set conditions for entry into his store? (And yes, of course, you have the freedom not to shop there if you choose.)
The mask is not intended to protect you; it's intended to protect others from being exposed to your exhaled or expelled droplets. So: should you have the freedom to infect others?
And...since we're talking "freedom"...should a store owner have the freedom to set conditions for entry into his store? (And yes, of course, you have the freedom not to shop there if you choose.)
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Are you familiar with Gore-Tex and how it works? It lets your perspiration vapor out, but keeps larger water droplets from getting in.
The masks work the same way, but in reverse. No, they don't filter particles as small as the virus...nor do they have to. What they will do is stop your exhaled, coughed, or expelled droplets -- which are much bigger than viral particles, and which contain those particles -- from getting out. That's how and why wearing the mask protects others.
The rest of your comments about common sense are spot-on...but common sense, as they say, ain't real common. Too many people don't understand what this is, and how it spreads. Too many others have this attitude that they just aren't going to obey rules they don't like...which is one of the reasons why the USA has more than one-fourth of all the reported deaths in the world from this illness.
Here's an excellent, well-written, and totally objective explanation of how this virus spreads, and what we can all do to avoid it and stay healthy...
https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them
How many of those complaining about having to wear masks to protect others from this virus go to their local ranges and complain about rules requiring hearing and eye protection?
S&WIowegan
US Veteran
I live in Iowa and the greater Des Moines area. My wife and I are in the elderly age category plus some risk factors. We both wear masks that are homemade and not very protective. Our governor has issued lots of 'directives' which are NOT being followed by the vast majority of people where we live. There doesn't seem to be any police action to enforce pandemic rules.
We can all theorize why vast majority of Iowa residents chose not to comply. I suspect many of our leaders and scientists lack credibility with many citizens. I also feel that many career science bureaucrats enjoy the attention and refuse to consider the economic damage their suggestions will wreak. Our elected representatives are left to do the best they can to find a balance of enforcement vs unnecessary harassment.
My wife and I have lived through many health scares including polio, TB and others too numerous to mention. Never has any previous health emergency lead to an attempt to shut the country down.
We can all theorize why vast majority of Iowa residents chose not to comply. I suspect many of our leaders and scientists lack credibility with many citizens. I also feel that many career science bureaucrats enjoy the attention and refuse to consider the economic damage their suggestions will wreak. Our elected representatives are left to do the best they can to find a balance of enforcement vs unnecessary harassment.
My wife and I have lived through many health scares including polio, TB and others too numerous to mention. Never has any previous health emergency lead to an attempt to shut the country down.
