Still No Relief With Ammo
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ArchAngelCD
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kbm6893 is so spot on about NE PA. I also live there, ammo and components are almost none existent. I did see a few pallets of Norma ammo at Bear's Gun Room but prices were out of the question. Rifle ammo was almost $2 a round. No exotic stuff, 30-30, 30-06, .270 and the like. A 500 round brick of Norma .22lr was marked $90. I can't pay that.
Shotgun ammo came back for a bit, then went away. Any time I see it at walmart, like today, I snag my limit and just accept that busting clays will be the only shooting I'm doing for a bit. There are worse problems I guess.
Dieseltech56
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I haven't really been buying much in the last year or so, I'm pretty well stocked up unless I choose to load new calibers. With the Russian ammo ban I've been strongly considering loading 7.62x39 but it still doesn't seem worth it with component prices so high.
I went to a gun show last weekend just to see what was out there and of course there's the few guys in the crowd always in front of a table with powder and primers at triple the prices saying how they know someone who knows someone who says it's going to get a lot worse. I walked the show for a few hours and nothing was moving off the tables. Even the Russian ammo wasn't moving at $500/1000. Who would have thought?
I'm nervous but still reluctant to go panick buying.
I went to a gun show last weekend just to see what was out there and of course there's the few guys in the crowd always in front of a table with powder and primers at triple the prices saying how they know someone who knows someone who says it's going to get a lot worse. I walked the show for a few hours and nothing was moving off the tables. Even the Russian ammo wasn't moving at $500/1000. Who would have thought?
I'm nervous but still reluctant to go panick buying.
We will just have to wait and see what happens. What we know right now is there is low supply and high demand equals high prices. I have my opinions, but truthfully they are just a guesses. I have observed more availability on-line though. Good luck to all in your quest !
smoothshooter
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The ammo shortage will continue for several more years.
Prices and availability will never return to pre-pandemic levels.
Labor shortages and materials shortages show no signs at all of improving.
Just read a pretty scary international containerized shipping industry report about how approximately 60% of all shipping containers are stranded in various ports around the world because there are not enough dockworkers to load and unload them. Leasing costs have risen from an average of $1,500 to $9,000 from Shanghai to Los Angeles. Similar rate increases apply for all shipments between Europe, the U.S., South America, etc.
Also, about 75,000 to 100,000 merchant seamen out of a total of 500,000 are stranded in foreign ports without pay and can't leave the ships because of quarantine requirements. Most have been trapped like that for over a year, and several have committed suicide.
For our purposes here, this means foreign shipments of ammunition and powder will be infrequent and more expensive.
Prices and availability will never return to pre-pandemic levels.
Labor shortages and materials shortages show no signs at all of improving.
Just read a pretty scary international containerized shipping industry report about how approximately 60% of all shipping containers are stranded in various ports around the world because there are not enough dockworkers to load and unload them. Leasing costs have risen from an average of $1,500 to $9,000 from Shanghai to Los Angeles. Similar rate increases apply for all shipments between Europe, the U.S., South America, etc.
Also, about 75,000 to 100,000 merchant seamen out of a total of 500,000 are stranded in foreign ports without pay and can't leave the ships because of quarantine requirements. Most have been trapped like that for over a year, and several have committed suicide.
For our purposes here, this means foreign shipments of ammunition and powder will be infrequent and more expensive.
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31FordA
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Yesterday I was in a large local gun store here in SE PA. They had CCI .22 for $50 a brick or $500 a case. They had a pallet load of it on the floor. Ample supply of 9/40/45 and 38/357 ammo as well, nothing over $28 a box. Lots of 5.56 and 7.62x51. Business is steady, but people aren't coming in to buy in a panic now.
Most stores I visit, and I visit a bunch, seem to have more inventory and somewhat lower prices. There are some big variations in price. One shop has Speer .357 Sig for $70 a box, another has the same ammo for $30 a box. I can find every cartridge I shoot on the shelf, maybe not at a great price or in a load I prefer, but I can get it if I need it.
Today I was speaking with the distributor my agency buys it's ammo from. Ammo for agency purchase is still in short supply, largely due to demand. Many agencies picked a really bad time to switch to 9mm. There is no 9 or 45 available for us at present, but they do have some .38 GDHP. Good news for me, bad news for the other guys in the unit. Hopefully the 9 and 45 show up before my budget allocation expires at the end of the year.
Most stores I visit, and I visit a bunch, seem to have more inventory and somewhat lower prices. There are some big variations in price. One shop has Speer .357 Sig for $70 a box, another has the same ammo for $30 a box. I can find every cartridge I shoot on the shelf, maybe not at a great price or in a load I prefer, but I can get it if I need it.
Today I was speaking with the distributor my agency buys it's ammo from. Ammo for agency purchase is still in short supply, largely due to demand. Many agencies picked a really bad time to switch to 9mm. There is no 9 or 45 available for us at present, but they do have some .38 GDHP. Good news for me, bad news for the other guys in the unit. Hopefully the 9 and 45 show up before my budget allocation expires at the end of the year.
A regional retailer opened a new store here North of Dallas. Plenty of ammo, but 9mm at $19.99, everything proportionally priced. I bought some .380 for 24.99 because I was out. Didn't buy 9mm, I can still load those. I think .38 Special was $28.99, lots of it. I still think after another year things will settle 20-25% above the pre-panic prices.
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Academy Sports on Blanding blvd. in JAX has 44 mag, Remington and Winchester for $55 a box. Quite a lot of other ammo too , C.F. rifle, lots of assorted shotgun shells and still the no fire 22RF by Winchester.
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what do you guys think would be a reasonable price per round for cci standard .22lr 40gr 1070 velocity
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Bass Pro had several cases on shelves about month ago, 100 round box was about $11.50. Plan on visiting them this weekend?
Fortunately I have a friend at a local shop that lets me know when they get what I'm looking for in, but pickings are still scarce. Over the years I've picked extra primers, powder etc. and keep them stored nice and cool and dry. My advice is that if and when this breaks open again to grab what you need. Kept properly will last almost indefinitely. Years ago I loaded up a bunch of .38 & .357 and now when I want to satisfy my urge to do a little shooting, I pull out the revolvers. Almost forgot how much fun they were to shoot.
max503
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Cruzin' the Walmarts, last couple months, I'll bet I've snagged close to a case-worth's of 22 ammo at pre-pandemic prices. I've also passed on a goodly amount just 'cause I didn't feel like hunting down someone with a key to the ammo case.
Went to the LGS yesterday....
Shelves full of ammo of all types. Just expensive. Not unbuyable, but expensive. About four boxes of SR primers on the shelf for a lot of money, one box limit, bought one.
Shelves full of ammo of all types. Just expensive. Not unbuyable, but expensive. About four boxes of SR primers on the shelf for a lot of money, one box limit, bought one.
