That number, 105508, is way too high for any pre WW II N frame, except for the 1917s.
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That number, 105508, is way too high for any pre WW II N frame, except for the 1917s.
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#10508. I have a bad time typing as I have Neuropathy in my hands and cannot feel my fingers. Nice catch. At least you read my post. Thanks, Big Larry
True, unless refinished at the factory the rebound slide/spring pin will usually get flattened. However even a factory refinish after WWII will have the pin flattened, because that's when it became factory protocol on new guns.
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I think it's a very nice but old refinish . Still something I would want if I could afford one .
If I saw that one at a gun show I would refer to it as a "June Bug" and if the price was anywhere near reasonable I would be the proverbial big duck.
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I have a 1923 .44spl built on a WWI .45 frame. Lettered. Original Nickel, pristine. A lucky find at a box store. Letter yours if you don't find any factory stamps under the grips. Would give you a much better idea on the value.
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My ffl doesent think its a re blue
We need to see a picture, or several, of the other side too. Sharp focus with plenty of light. It looks pretty good in the pictures but hard to tell about the finish for sure, whether it is original or a re-blue. Are there any S&W service stamps on the left side of the frame under the grips? A picture of that part of the frame might be helpful too. The grips are definitely not correct for a 1911 gun. The ones on it appear to be the convex ones we would see on a 2nd Model from 1920-1930. If 1911 production it probably should have gold medallion service stocks like those below.
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https://flic.kr/p/2qoA7Fy https://www.flickr.com/photos/194934231@N03/
My ffl doesent think its a re blue
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Compare this one, which is definitely not reblued, to yours, the frame to cam junction:
https://smith-wessonforum.com/redirect-to/?redirect=https://postimg.cc/GTrP1pRf
And yours:
https://smith-wessonforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=703417&d=1729536107
Note especially how "proud" the cam of yours is to the frame, as compared to the other revolver.
A factory refinish cannot be ruled out. Is there a two digit month and date code on the frame under the left stock?
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It is definitely a reblue, but a far above average job.
I suspect it might be a Factory job from the early 1920s.
If you will show a pic as I requested, it may have Factory matks to show that---
They are asking for a pic of the LEFT gripframe, like this-
Sorry, but I have to hop on the re-blue bandwagon. The cylinder polish isn't mirrorlike like an original finish.
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The flat stud is proof enough-
I have never seen an original Triple Lock that did not have a domed stud like this-
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My call at first glance at the first picture was of course it's been refinished, and not all that well at that.
It was my good fortune to have owned two Triple Locks, one a first year 7 1/2" target, the other a later fixed sight gun that'd been off to Mr. King's emporium and came back as a King Super Target.
Both were stunning guns as witnessed by the prices they fetched during the liquidation of my collection during the fairly recent past. The first one went out the door at $10,000, the second at $8825. The stunning aspect can be seen with your own eyes---and NOBODY will be asking if the finishes are original. Pictures of the second gun are here on the forum, and I can hunt them up and tell you how to find them. I have a print of the first one I can copy and send off to anybody smarter than I am when it comes to getting them scanned into the computer, and then back out to show up here.
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It was my good fortune to have owned two Triple Locks, one a first year 7 1/2" target, the other a later fixed sight gun that'd been off to Mr. King's emporium and came back as a King Super Target.
Both were stunning guns as witnessed by the prices they fetched during the liquidation of my collection during the fairly recent past. The first one went out the door at $10,000, the second at $8825. The stunning aspect can be seen with your own eyes---and NOBODY will be asking if the finishes are original. Pictures of the second gun are here on the forum, and I can hunt them up and tell you how to find them. I have a print of the first one I can copy and send off to anybody smarter than I am when it comes to getting them scanned into the computer, and then back out to show up here.
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The exception to a factory reblue with a flat stud instead of domed stud means it was done after WWII.
After WWII the factory protocol on new guns was to polish the end of the stud flush with the frame surface. Therefore they did it the same way when refinishing a pre war gun at the factory after WWII.
Also you you may observe a pre war gun with a factory rework date prior to WWII but with a a flat stud. This indicates that although it was factory refinished at some time prior to WWII, but it was refinished again after that date and not by the factory.
After WWII the factory protocol on new guns was to polish the end of the stud flush with the frame surface. Therefore they did it the same way when refinishing a pre war gun at the factory after WWII.
Also you you may observe a pre war gun with a factory rework date prior to WWII but with a a flat stud. This indicates that although it was factory refinished at some time prior to WWII, but it was refinished again after that date and not by the factory.
Here's an example, a 1909 target, flat stud, factory refinished in September, 1952.
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https://flic.kr/p/2pRYZ5r https://www.flickr.com/photos/194934231@N03/
