Taurus Bashing?

I had trouble with every Taurus I've owned. I have had to send everyone of them back for repairs ( about a half dozen both revolvers and semi autos.) I sold all but one which is a 2" 44 special which also broke. I'll never buy another.
 
I recently purchased the Taurus M380 Revolver. It shoots 380 from clips. My first 380, no problems yet. Its' on caliber I didn't own and the price was right. I've heard Taurus bashing but haven't known anyone with a bad Tuarus...we'll see...
 
Have owned, not heard about, but really spent money to purchase 2 new Taurus semi autos.(recently too) Both were just junk. Parts fell off, and the innards broke. Gave one away. Here's the weird part the second was a PT22 made of plastic. After it spent a month being repaired I sold it used, at a profit! Strange world. Also own 2 Rossi revolvers. They are both stamped "Made by Taurus." In reference to the poster above that mentioned taking one apart and you would know why S&W's are better. I removed the side plate on one Rossi and my 640"C" from 1990. The fit and finish were very good on both. None of the rough unfinished parts that Internet experts are always referring to. In short I will not bash the Rossi part of Taurus anymore. Both the Rossi's shoot very well, don't shave lead out the sides and with the exception of there being no aftermarket grips to buy, are wonderful revolvers. I did muck up a screw on the Rossi on assembly. Guess I will just have to keep it. I also tried the 20-25 dry firings as fast as I could to see if I could throw it out of time. No issues there either. I guess that's another Internet Expert myth as well.
 
My wife likes her early '80s model 85, and after recently replacing the hammer spring it actually shoots again! They were pretty good guns back then. I had a 605 for a couple years.....never shot it much. Just didn't really like it......
 
I have a PT92AF.....never had a problem except when it discharged while racking the slide.........*day I bought it*. Previous owner had put grease or something in the firing pin tube. Causing the pin to not retract :/. After fixing that......I've never had an issue.

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I bought a 90's production 357mag with 6" barrel from a friend and it was solid. That lead me to buy a full size 44mag a few years ago in 4". It was quite accurate and a real pleasure with the porting. I just figured the price of it new wasn't far off a used S&W (at least a few years ago) and no internal lock as well so both were traded.

Probably wont buy another one unless its from the 90's but then again I won't buy a new smith with an internal lock on principal.
 
I bought a 90's production 357mag with 6" barrel from a friend and it was solid. That lead me to buy a full size 44mag a few years ago in 4". It was quite accurate and a real pleasure with the porting. I just figured the price of it new wasn't far off a used S&W (at least a few years ago) and no internal lock as well so both were traded.

Probably wont buy another one unless its from the 90's but then again I won't buy a new smith with an internal lock on principal.

I would rather by a S&W with lock and replace it than buy a gun made by Taurus. Chances are that even with the lock the Smith will far outlast any Taurus product.
 
I would rather by a S&W with lock and replace it than buy a gun made by Taurus. Chances are that even with the lock the Smith will far outlast any Taurus product.

Difference is when your smith is worn out and needs to be replaced. It will cost you money. A lot.

The Taurus. It wears out.....EVER....they'll give you a replacement. FOREVER. :)

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I've owned two different Tracker revolvers and found them to be very nice, solid, reliable guns. The Tracker 992 I own is very innovative with the way you can swap the interchangeable cylinders for .22lr/22wmr so quickly. The Trackers are very beefy and I don't ever worry about breaking one.
 
Difference is when your smith is worn out and needs to be replaced. It will cost you money. A lot.

The Taurus. It wears out.....EVER....they'll give you a replacement. FOREVER. :)

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That's not a "difference" that I consider when buying a gun. Like anything else quality should be first and foremost. Not cost.

Is that difference worth having to send it back to the factory for something that should have been done right the first time?

It's like buying cheap a car with a 10 year warranty. If it's always in for repairs what good is it?

If I somehow wore out a S&W in my lifetime I would be happy that I got my moneys worth and buy another.

The difference could be that all of my guns could be used for self defense. I won't rely on a cheap second rate copy for that purpose.

Ever had a gun break on you when you're out having fun with it? I have. The fun ended quickly.
 
I'm just curious as to why people bash Taurus so much. Now granted I haven't bought anything from them since the late 80's or early 90's but I have an early Model 92 clone of the Beretta plus my wife has the Model 85 .38 Spcl. and we have always found them to be an excellent weapons. I remember at the time I bought the 92 that the Beretta was $200 more, came with a 1 year warranty and plastic grips while the Taurus came with a lifetime warranty and wood grips. It seemed to me from just the warranty alone that Taurus had more confidence in their pistol than did Beretta. Has the Taurus quality gone downhill since then?

CW

IMHO, it had nowhere to go but uphill. Admittedly, I haven't bought a Taurus since the mid 90's so won't claim my experience against new production. Still, back in my younger days where money was tight and my opinions were based on wish's vs reality, I thought S&W's to be overpriced. Consequently, I bought into the Taurus coolaid ( largely based on their warranty). In the end, of the five Taurus revolvers I purchased, only two were of decent quality. Of the other three, one went back to the factory three times for a front sight that was skewed. ( and never was fixed right). (Poor QA) Another wore itself sloppy after less than 200 rounds of 38spl target ammo. ( Poor Metallurgy) The last actually blew up in my hand on it's first time to the range. My gunsmith inspected the gun and found that the forcing cone had not been cut.
( Poor process and QA). In all three cases, I had to fight with the factory to get satisfaction ( and rarely did.)

Bottom Line, I believe a 60% failure rate and a KABOOM give me the right to bash away. There will be no further experimenting with this brand. I have since learned that there are a couple of decent second string brands out there but nothing that comes close to Colt and S&W revolver quality.
I've also learned that a few bucks saved up front is not necessarily a good thing.

p.s. I'm grateful to have all my fingers to type this mesage. Even if I only use two of them to peck at the keys!
 
I've experienced both sides of the Taurus personality and in my case it was about 40% good 60% bad .

The good; Model 917 Tracker .22, Accurate, tight B/C gap made it easy to clean heavy DA trigger but the SA pull was crisp. Sold it. Model 431 .44 Special made in 1992. Great gun, decided not to carry it, sold it to a happy member here on the Forum. Model 605 .357 Snubby. Was my first CCW gun. Very accurate and the trigger wore in to smooth as butter. Sold it to someone who had theirs stolen and wanted an exact replacement. Model PT1911-9MM, Very nice 9MM 1911 for a fair price! My wife loves it.

The Bad; PT-22 the Brazilian knock-off of the Beretta. The slide would fall-off while shooting! Taurus had it for three months and sent it back saying "No problem found". Traded.
Model 94, .22 LR. The single action pull was above the 14lbs my gauge reads! Timing was off and grouped 6 inches at 25 feet! Traded. Model 85 UL .38 Special snub nose. Accurate but unreliable. The trigger was very east to short-stroke causing the cylinder to stop before lock-up. Never, ever had that happen with an S&W. Also, the yoke retaining screw holds by just 1.5 threads. After just four range outings the screw popped loose. Taurus would not sell me a replacement screw. They wanted me to pay to FedEX them the gun for a $8 part.
Traded it to a dealer who got the part by giving Taurus the SN to a new gun and saying the screw was defective.
We had two PT-738 .380's mine was flawless. My wife's required two trips back to Florida and two new mags before it would function. Sold both of them.
 
I had a 5 shot 3" fixed sight Taurus 44 special. It was an excellent and I was very happy with it though it did shoot a little high. I currently have a Taurus TCP 380 that is perfectly reliable and very accurate and I would rate it above the Kel tec and Ruger 380s that I used to own.
 
I own 2 Taurus .380s. Not problems with either. They'll eat anything I put in them. I have 2 friends that own Taurus's. No trouble with either of those. Won't hear me bashing them.
 
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