Taurus Brand Question: An Honest Question?

That is my gun i bought new 2006 with new Remington 357 mag ammo. I don't do reloads !!! I shot 38s in it and then loaded 357 and when i shot it -thats what happen. My lawyer sent the gun to two gun smiths and both said that the wheel just couldn't handle the ammo. They said the wheel was locked and lined up with the barrel.The metal they used was from china. I also think that it was the first 8 shot rev. and maybe the metal was just to thin ??? Metalfortress.
I'm not hear to bash any gun but when something like that happens to you and you get hurt, you start looking into what happen. I when on line and i saw lots of those guns blow up. You can look for your self. Will i ever buy a 357 8 shot rev. from them again. NOT !!!!!!! You think i would let my son use that gun? NOT !!!!

Well it makes more sense now then just a picture.

It's not Chinese steel. Brazil can make great guns. Their FAL rifles are some of the best and people pay a premium for their Imbel recievers. Its Taurus lack of proper hardening/heat treatment and plain old bad quality control on every level.

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Have had a half dozen or so:

92 clone: No complaints. Just never could love it.

Model 85 CH=terrible. My wife's first carry. I didn't feel safe with her carrying it. Jam-a-holic.

Raging Bull in 454: No complaints. Heavy and loud. Will sell it when I get my Reeder 454.
 
Well it makes more sense now then just a picture.

It's not Chinese steel. Brazil can make great guns. Their FAL rifles are some of the best and people pay a premium for their Imbel recievers. Its Taurus lack of proper hardening/heat treatment and plain old bad quality control on every level.

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How many 38s? Was it cleaned before firing 357s?
 
Well it makes more sense now then just a picture.

It's not Chinese steel. Brazil can make great guns. Their FAL rifles are some of the best and people pay a premium for their Imbel recievers. Its Taurus lack of proper hardening/heat treatment and plain old bad quality control on every level.

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Cool -- i'm happy your not going to start a debate about this. I got hell for posting that picture from other forums. I also got band from one forum. When someone post and ask about a maker of guns. I'm going to show n tell. It was only those guns they had problems with. I really thing they when from 6 shot to 8 shot and when you do that -they have to thin out the wheel. Who knows ??? Any other size gun-Yes i would buy from them,they make a good gun for the price.
 
I had heard for years reports of poor quality on Taurus firearms.

I avoided them. Then they produced the M85 revolver. Essentially a Chief's Special with an underlug. I liked the lines and suspected the underlug provided a good balance and heft. Haven't bought one yet but I might just to see if they are "good enough".

I do have M431 with the 2 1/2 inch barrel, fixed sights, in stainless. I just had to try it as it fit a niche no other .44 Special does (that I know of).

Mainspring was a bit too powerful so I replaced it with a Wolff spring. Wood grips were harsh on the hands, even with soft loads so I "remodeled" a pair of Uncle Mike's for the square butt M431. Problem solved.

Accuracy was okay with 3 inch groups at 25 yards for 240 and 200 grain loads. It shot about 1 1/2 inches to the left.

I still have it, although a Commander size M1911 will carry or conceal as well as the M431.

I have, in the later years, heard both good and bad about Taurus and believe one has to take chances like I did and maybe get lucky.
 
How many 38s? Was it cleaned before firing 357s?

Gun was new- Took it to the range and shot -all 8 rounds of 38s and all was good. Open a new box of Remington 357 and the first shot and it blow up. My lawyer also took the box of 357 and they send it out and checked all the ammo and all were loaded ok. All this took 2 years with my lawyer.
The story can be found on line at my e-mail
[email protected] Put in Taurus gun blows up. Let me tell you now --i got hell from some guy for posting this !!! He must of worked for Taurus. You will see what he said and what i said. It was a fight to the end.
 
My only Taurus was a four inch five shot 44 mag on a medium frame and it worked just fine. The trigger was gritty and the cylinder wanted to drag from time to time. Ultimately the gun was sold b/c the reason for owning it had changed and I no longer needed something with a caliber that heavy.

My opinion is they are okay but you take a chance with them. I have no experience with their customer service.
 
I've got a CIA and Tracker.

The CIA is my wife's nightstand gun and never gets shot. It has a trigger no worse than my 642... maybe a bit better. I've had the Tracker as a recreational range gun for quite a few years. Shoots well... never a hiccup.

 
I'm not going to say anything, Picture tells a 1000 words !!!

Ummm.... I've actually seen similar pictures involving brands other than Taurus...


I have an '82 vintage 669 I bought in '09 (IIRC). Only put a couple hunnert rounds through it before I discovered S&W but no issues. As nice & crisp as a P&R Smith? No, but none of my S&W were $300 OTD. ;) I was aware of Taurus' spotty QC & CS issues but I figured any issues would have been already resolved after 27 years. ;)
 
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Hello all:

Well when a fellow asks for an honest answer the S & W bunch will sure give it. I do appreciate your comebacks.

I guess it to be about 50 / 50 on the "take it or leave it meter." I also suppose that there is no changing "you get what you pay for" rule.

Thanks again. And thanks for being real friends and telling "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" as you see it.

I am proud to be a member here.

"My two cents worth!" ;)
 
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I've only ever had one, The Judge. I liked it ok, just didn't shoot it enough and decided I wanted something different eventually. Mrs shooter's son had a PT111 and carried it for a long time and shoot the heck out of it. Eventually it had to be retired because of some problem but he had put thousands of rounds through it by then.

Like anything, do your research and go with what you believe.
 
I have owned several Taurus guns, and had some bad experiences with a couple of them. Taurus is improving lately, but they still aren't there yet, IMO. ANY gun maker can put out a lemon...but how they deal with it is what matters to me. Yes, Taurus does have a lifetime warranty...BUT their service is (or has been historically) abysmally slow and often didn't fix the problem on the first, or even several subsequent, trips to the factory. Taurus doesn't pay for shipping for warranty repairs, after 90 days. That is a big deal to me...S&W does, Ruger does, Springfield does...it costs a lot to properly ship a handgun, and any manufacturer that won't support their product won't get my business. Also, Taurus won't sell parts to private individuals. Their CEO has pledged to change that, and apparently parts are more available for the 738 now, but why not just make them available across the board? I don't understand why they can't just decide to sell parts (based on inventory, of course.) Of course, in fairness, that isn't limited to Taurus...Ruger wouldn't sell me a striker for my SR9...they would sell the springs and cups, but not the complete striker. (That makes no sense.)

My first Taurus was (I can't remember the model) a titanium framed, ported, .44 special revolver. (I bought this maybe 20 years ago.) I had it for years and never shot it. Finally, when I got around to it, it failed to fire 10 times out of 10 (it had a 5 round cylinder) on the first two attempts, and then would only fire one or two times per cylinder after that. I took it to my local gun shop, and the smith there said it was badly out of time, and had several other problems as well. He took it in trade, but obviously at a loss to me. I also had a PT1911 that the thumb safeties fell off, and I found out that not all parts on Taurus 1911s (at that time, I don't know about now) are not standard and not interchangeable. I had a Judge, but I hadn't fired it (none of the ranges around here allow shotguns) so I decided to trade it in as well, and be done with Taurus products. I took a beating on them, because Taurus guns do not hold their value, or certainly didn't at that time.

I've been looking lately at the PT111 Millennium G2. That is a good looking little pistol, has decent capacity, and feels good in the hand. I don't like that it has plastic sights, and I'm not sure what options there are to replace them. I still have great reservations about buying a Taurus, though. According to the people on the Taurus forum, their service is very much improved. I did a test call to Taurus, which was answered promptly by someone speaking good English (which isn't all that common with any company any more...not intended as a dig against Taurus and its Brazilian ownership.) He seemed very knowledgeable, took his time and answered my questions. He said they would sell recoil springs (in fact, they recommended replacing them at intervals), magazines, and magazine parts, but anything else they wanted to replace themselves. He said it was for both analysis and liability reasons.

The PT111 G2 is certainly priced right...$329 at Academy Sports...while the Shield is $399 on sale right now, and normally priced at $449 IF you can find one in stock. The PT111 G2 gets glowing reviews from everyone, and it's the only Taurus I would even consider right now...and even so, I still have reservations about the support from Taurus. Until they change their policy on shipping, I just don't think I can buy a gun from them. I may pay more for a S&W, but if it has to go back for service, the paid shipping cost alone will make up the difference...not to mention that with S&W, they hold more value and, while an intangible, gives more pride of ownership.
 
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I own One Taurus revolver, a M -617 2". This is the Taurus clone of the M681. Over the last 4 or so years I've put between 2,000 - 2,500 rounds of assorted 38 special, 38 special +p, 38 special +P+, and .357 Magnum ammo through it without and problems.

When I bought it the finish was as nice as the 686 sitting next to it in the display case and the trigger pull could best described as Rugerest, rough but nothing some dry firing or shooting would not improve.

Was I lucky and got a good product? I don't know. I do know that I will not buy another Taurus product, as life is just to short not to try and have the best you can have.

Also remember that Taurus products have a very low resale value.
 
As long as S&W keeps producing revolvers I don't see any reason to buy one from any other brand. Hopefully the other brands stick around though because competition is good for the marketplace.

That said I do own 1 Taurus, a Public Defender Poly but it's strictly a "for ships and giggles gun" for fun at the range and I got it dirt cheap. Been reliable enough there though the fiber optic rod fell out after the 1st shot... lol.
 
I have owned a number of Taurus revolvers and pistols and had something break on everyone of them. They do have a life time warranty which you will need. I won't own another one. I have had some problems with Colt , S&W , and Ruger handguns but nothing like the Taurus guns.
 
the two main things about any Taurus is this, hope you never need their customer service because they don't have such a thing. second, if you sell or trade it, expect to not get a lot for it. sort of like trying to trade in a Yugo on a real car.
 
Having an FFL in the 1980's, I sold many, many Taurus (mostly model 85/94 wheelguns with some 92 series autos). Out of approximately 100-120 sold (all NIB), I returned only one to the factory; a blued 94 (22 LR) with timing issues. Not bad, I would guess.

As for "current" specimens? I cannot comment.
 
The year before last (pre-panic) my small town LGS stopped carrying Taurus products due to increasing QC problems.
 

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