The .32-20 Hand Ejector Thread
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sheriffoconee
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Sorry, go stand in the corner and hide your head in shame....
.32-20 Winchester - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
.32 S&W Long - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ColbyBruce
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No, these are two different cartridges.
.32 a.c.p.; .32 S&W; .32 S&W Long; .32 H&R magnum; .32/20 Win.
.32 a.c.p.; .32 S&W; .32 S&W Long; .32 H&R magnum; .32/20 Win.
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Chinajim,
There is a possible reprieve for you however: the 32-20 cartridge has two common names, 32 WCF (winch ctr fire) and 32-20 Winchester which have been the seeds for confusion for many people.
There is a possible reprieve for you however: the 32-20 cartridge has two common names, 32 WCF (winch ctr fire) and 32-20 Winchester which have been the seeds for confusion for many people.
32-20 vs 32 long
Thank you for the info The revolver I wish to purchase is a Spanish made SW 32 Lng in the police design The gunsmith who owns it said he would have no fear firing it A picture of the design is on the 32 cal thread under my name I figured it would make a good self defense gun since any shoot out over 50 feet I'm gonna run lol Found a few 32 S&W's for sale up in the 4 bill range. He wants 200
regards
China Jim
Thank you for the info The revolver I wish to purchase is a Spanish made SW 32 Lng in the police design The gunsmith who owns it said he would have no fear firing it A picture of the design is on the 32 cal thread under my name I figured it would make a good self defense gun since any shoot out over 50 feet I'm gonna run lol Found a few 32 S&W's for sale up in the 4 bill range. He wants 200
regards
China Jim
rburg
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Some idle musings: Long ago (well, not that long) David Carroll had a "Franken-gun" for sale. I bought it. Its what appears to be a prewar K32, with a mix of parts. Probably done at the factory if only because I can't figure out where else the barrel and cylinder could come from. Its got a proper centerfire hammer, and it seems to function pretty well. The barrel isn't finished, but it is a prewar K32 barrel. The cylinder appears for all the world to be a genuine K32 cylinder, and its blued as it should be. 
The gun's frame is also unpoished and unfinished. Stocks look great, but not finish sanded to the grip frame. Roy says its on a page in a book inhabited by K22s. Its also open on company books.
But I just wonder if I borrowed the cylinder/star/extractor rod from the gun and test fitted them to my .32-20 target if it would work. It'd probably make it a very serviceable .32 long with a .32-20 barrel stamp.
OK, it was one of the other threads where someone came in and pointed out you can fire .32 longs in a .32-20 without any gun damage. It does swell cases, but there is enough rim to catch the cylinder and fire just fine. Long cylinder but the right diameter bore. Function is fine, but maybe the extraction is sticky with the bulged cases.
If my above cylinder will fit and time correctly, I've got an even better solution. The only problem being my pristine non-medallion grips would be wrong for the made-up K32. But I could swap in a nice set of 1930's K grips and I'd be good to go. 
The gun's frame is also unpoished and unfinished. Stocks look great, but not finish sanded to the grip frame. Roy says its on a page in a book inhabited by K22s. Its also open on company books.But I just wonder if I borrowed the cylinder/star/extractor rod from the gun and test fitted them to my .32-20 target if it would work. It'd probably make it a very serviceable .32 long with a .32-20 barrel stamp.
OK, it was one of the other threads where someone came in and pointed out you can fire .32 longs in a .32-20 without any gun damage. It does swell cases, but there is enough rim to catch the cylinder and fire just fine. Long cylinder but the right diameter bore. Function is fine, but maybe the extraction is sticky with the bulged cases.
If my above cylinder will fit and time correctly, I've got an even better solution.
The only problem being my pristine non-medallion grips would be wrong for the made-up K32. But I could swap in a nice set of 1930's K grips and I'd be good to go. Doc Watson
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In reference to shooting .32 longs in a 32-20, the late Maj. George Nonte disagrees, he lists them safe to fire, in fact I have done it in one of my 32-20 a Colt Police Positive.
ColbyBruce
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Personally, I would not give $200.00 for a Spanish copy of a S&W. I like Spanish guns, and have owned a few, but you can find a better handgun chambered in a more potent caliber for that price, or maybe a bit more.
If you are near Atlanta, GA I will be happy to take you shopping.
Chinajim, I had three or four former LE S&W 39-2 9mm's shipped over here last week. I have yet to view them, but if this might interest you drop me a P.M. These were tentatively priced around $250.00, but that is negotiable depending on condition. One of them had problems (it is apart in a box). Not sure if that one came here or not, LOL!!
If you are near Atlanta, GA I will be happy to take you shopping.
Chinajim, I had three or four former LE S&W 39-2 9mm's shipped over here last week. I have yet to view them, but if this might interest you drop me a P.M. These were tentatively priced around $250.00, but that is negotiable depending on condition. One of them had problems (it is apart in a box). Not sure if that one came here or not, LOL!!
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But I just wonder if I borrowed the cylinder/star/extractor rod from the gun and test fitted them to my .32-20 target if it would work. It'd probably make it a very serviceable .32 long with a .32-20 barrel stamp.
Dick,
You certainly peaked my interest with your idea. It's too easy to do, not to give it a try. It wouldn't be a one of kind convertible since Gatorbait showed his in post #44, but you sure wouldn't find many. Yours would be different in that you'd be using the same yoke and swapping cylinders.
IMHO I don't think the timing will be an issue. The barrel cylinder gap may but very fixable. The ejector rods are going to both be right hand thread so you may want to use the 32-20 rod as it will be fitted properly to the gun for lockup. Also I think the heads are different shape; your 32-20 being the 'mushroom' style based on your description of your grips and the 1930's vintage 32 revolver has the barrel style.
Let us know if you try it.
rburg
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So this morning early my oldest and I ventured way north, to the OGCA show. We do that every other month.....
No real expectation of finding anything good, but with a pocket full of money and a smile on my face, I tried. What I discovered was a gold mine of 32-20 ammo. OK, only 2 boxes for $40 total. To me that's a good price considering the $40 is what most shops want for one box.
I also picked up a box of 32 S&W for $10. Fodder for the .32 cal experiment on the .32-20.
No real expectation of finding anything good, but with a pocket full of money and a smile on my face, I tried. What I discovered was a gold mine of 32-20 ammo. OK, only 2 boxes for $40 total. To me that's a good price considering the $40 is what most shops want for one box.
I also picked up a box of 32 S&W for $10. Fodder for the .32 cal experiment on the .32-20.
Dick,
You did very well. I was at a local show last weekend and couldn't find any 32 L under $30/box so I counted my brass at about 250 and reloaded them for the 1st time. 32-20 is never less than $40/box.
gregintenn
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I picked up #144509 at a local show today. I'd like to enter it in the highest serial number contest. According to Mr. Jinks, there were little more than a hundred more made after this one.
Wow! I didn't think about ammo for it being as expensive as it is.
Is the Blue Book close on the value of these things?
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rburg
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David Carroll has a 5" gun with 144583 on his web site for sale. Guess thats 72 guns higher than yours. I wonder if the short barrel examples were sold out by the time they made yours and his, so some went back into production to satisfy demand for them. Long barrel guns might have still been in stock, so they kept pulling those for sale instead of producing them.
So in the last produced game you're playing, maybe it would also help out to state barrel length along with the high serials.
gregintenn
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As you can see, mine is a 4". 144583 is sure enough a late one.
ColbyBruce
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Ammo ?
I bought these two boxes of ammo yesterday for my revolver. I did not notice the "express rifle" notation until I put the ammo on a closet shelf a few minutes ago. Is this safe to shoot in my revolver?
I bought these two boxes of ammo yesterday for my revolver. I did not notice the "express rifle" notation until I put the ammo on a closet shelf a few minutes ago. Is this safe to shoot in my revolver?
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"Is this safe to shoot in my revolver?"
Yes. The .32 WCF (.32-20) was designed as a rifle cartidge for the Winchester 1873. Around 1882, Colt chambered it in their Single Action Army. That's why it is listed as a rifle cartridge.
The only factory load to avoid is the 80 grain jacketed hollowpoint that has a "HV" (high velocity) headstamp. IIRC, that load hasn't been produced since the 1960s.
Yes. The .32 WCF (.32-20) was designed as a rifle cartidge for the Winchester 1873. Around 1882, Colt chambered it in their Single Action Army. That's why it is listed as a rifle cartridge.
The only factory load to avoid is the 80 grain jacketed hollowpoint that has a "HV" (high velocity) headstamp. IIRC, that load hasn't been produced since the 1960s.
ColbyBruce
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I got the info below off the Remington website. The velocity concerns me.
Technical Information
•Caliber: 32-20 WCF
•Bullet Weight: 100 Grains
•Bullet Style: Lead Flat Nose
•Case Type: Brass
Ballistics Information:
•Muzzle Velocity: 1210 fps
•Muzzle Energy: 325 ft. lbs.
Technical Information
•Caliber: 32-20 WCF
•Bullet Weight: 100 Grains
•Bullet Style: Lead Flat Nose
•Case Type: Brass
Ballistics Information:
•Muzzle Velocity: 1210 fps
•Muzzle Energy: 325 ft. lbs.
Those must be the double rifle African Safari loads.
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