The .380

[Rule3]

No arguments from me ..... It seems from those accounts that "hardball" is more reliable.

Don

Ah yes, there lies the dilemma That is one persons accounts of limited information. No disrespect meant. But what happens when a JHP does not expand? It acts like a hardball. My intent is not to kill but to stop. Either one will do so.

I have yet to find someone willing to hold my targets while shooting JHP.

 

[woodsltc]

Ah yes, there lies the dilemma That is one persons accounts of limited information. No disrespect meant. But what happens when a JHP does not expand? It acts like a hardball. My intent is not to kill but to stop. Either one will do so.

I have yet to find someone willing to hold my targets while shooting JHP.

Well, I certainly don't want to hold your targets . But you make some good arguments...........I may regret not using JHP's if I'm ever attacked by sabre-toothed milkjugs!!

 

[Rule3]

Tested the Winchester PDX1 95 gr. 380 Ammo.

Yes they expand.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/ammo/1...-95-gr-personal-protection.html#post135576658

 

[therevjay]

FMJ please

One thing no one has mentioned. (FMJ vs. JHP) My choice is FMJ for a very basic reason. Almost all my semi-autos are 'semi-antiques'. Designed in the days when there was no such thing as a JHP, and cannot be relied on to function with them.

 

[HCD]

as for the OP's question, why now? all i can say is that even though i live in a state that allows open carry, mostly i dont. and it is hotter than hammered he##, and i am tired of wearing 2 shirts. so last week i had to go to the city and after doing my business sweating like a banshee, on the drive home i spotted a small gun shop. i went in and asked to see pocket/mouse guns i got myself a .380 and a pocket holster. so that may be some of the upswing dont know, but that was my reason. and the shop only had 1 box of the stuff it was Win. Supreme Elite and it was 17.95 for a box of 20.

just posting the quote so you dont have to look back.

UPDATE: When I got home I went to my local shop and got some brake-in ammo, got Rem. FMJRN 15.95 box of 50. Shop had plenty of that stuff but little if any PP ammo. And by the by I got the Kel-Tec 215.00+tax new in the plastic box with plastic lock thingy. I did waste 6 rounds of the Win. PDX1 10 yards at steel plates and it shot fair with no malfunctions, the gun is a bit difficult to handle due to size but quite snappy with said ammo. Guess it'll have to do till the temps back off a bit.

On another note I see where some state the price is a rip off for some of the ammo, and would say this. After buying 410 shells for a lot of years and finding it always more expencive than 12 ga. I could never understand this. That is untill I started loading my own shot shells, I can load 3 boxes of 12 ga. in the time it takes me to load one box of 410. This may be some of the reason the little .380 is so expencive. Smaller things are more trouble.

 

[armenius]

A few rounds out of my Kel-Tec is painful for the fingers on my size 8 1/2 hand.Fair accuracy.My Walther is accurate with a terrible bite.The FEG has a slight beavertail and is quite accurate with no bite.The PPK styles are a bit heavy in the front pocket.One I haven't heard mentioned is the LLama which is a miniature 1911.It is light and very accurate and since I use a 1911 or Commander quite a bit I like it,however some folks might not like the mechanics of the 1911.

 

[Cyrano]

I love the 45 format and have had several Llamas. The new ones are blowback and give more recoil. There was an alloy frame model; I shot mine enough it began to peen where the breech of the barrel slammed into the frame during unlocking. Now I have one from circa 1956 that is almost new. It feels wonderful in my hand and is very reliable. Accurate for a 380, too.