THE BEST COLOR LED BULB HAS THE WORST SERVICE RECORD!

I have gone pretty much to an all-LED home, converted all of my fluorescent fixtures (I have many of those) to LED over 5 years ago. The exceptions are those lights in areas that get used relatively little such as in the attic, closets, and storage areas.

Around 10-15 years ago, the local power utility was distributing free LED bulbs. I took a few of them, should have taken a lot more when I had the chance. I have a few of the screw base compact fluorescents in outside areas. Don't know if those are still made or not.
 
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Have a large plastic box that was just about full of conventional assorted wattage light bulbs. Down to 3 boxes of 4 so will have to convert. Oil lamps are starting to look good, lol.
 
Around these here parts they's called "bubs".

That emit "light."

The Edison "bubs" in my second bathroom are used multiple times daily, five of them. I've replaced one bulb since they were installed--30 years ago.
 
There is ONE THING about LED's that is absolutely a benefit! They produce extremely low amounts of heat. In the Sunshine State, that os a REAL plus!!! So low in fact that in many Northern States they can not be used in Traffic Signals because they will not produce enough heat to melt the ice and snow.

Other than the heat factor, I have no love loss for them.
 
There is ONE THING about LED's that is absolutely a benefit! They produce extremely low amounts of heat. In the Sunshine State, that os a REAL plus!!! So low in fact that in many Northern States they can not be used in Traffic Signals because they will not produce enough heat to melt the ice and snow.

Other than the heat factor, I have no love loss for them.

The heat thing counts double in Vegas.
 
There is ONE THING about LED's that is absolutely a benefit! They produce extremely low amounts of heat. In the Sunshine State, that os a REAL plus!!! So low in fact that in many Northern States they can not be used in Traffic Signals because they will not produce enough heat to melt the ice and snow.

Other than the heat factor, I have no love loss for them.

Have to heat the house anyway.
 
The early original filament electrical bulbs had very lengthy service lives. Too long for the manufacturers so they were redesigned to burn out more quickly in order to sell more of them. An early example of planned obsolescence. I have read about a bulb in a California firehouse that has burned continuously for well over 100 years. Livermore's Centennial Light Bulb

I remember something to the effect that a Tungsten filament bulb's lifespan is estimated to be inversely proportional to the cube of its voltage. For example, a bulb designed and intended for use at 125 volts will double its life expectancy if it is used at 100 volts. But of course, it emits less light if operated at 100 volts. If operated at 57 volts, the bulb's expected life would be 10x that at 125 volts. But it would put out very little light. Whether it actually works out this way, I cannot guarantee.
 
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The early original filament electrical bulbs had very lengthy service lives. Too long for the manufacturers so they were redesigned to burn out more quickly in order to sell more of them. An early example of planned obsolescence....
Yeah, and they have THAT down to a science.
Our lake cabin has kind of a small cellar/crawl space under the deck where the hot water heater resides. There is a pull-chain light fixture right above the hot water heater where all the plumbing goes into the house. We use a 100watt incandescent bulb we leave turned on during winter to add just a little heat to the space and keep the pipes from freezing. We've replaced that bulb at least once per year as long as we've owned the place.
Used to be that if it was left on (not a lot of on/off cycles) an incandescent bulb would last for years. Not these days!
What's more you can't buy regular screw-in incandescent bulbs in Washington state any more - they outlawed them a couple of years ago as part of some Go Green legislation.
So we have to order them online or drive over to Idaho to buy them and they are absolute GARBAGE! No longevity AT ALL! :mad:
 
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I was a late adopter of LED bulbs. I detested the compact fluorescent bulbs and bought maybe one or two total. So around the time we were being forced to abandon incandescent bulbs, I began to stockpile them.

I got concerned that I'd deplete my stash in some of the highly used fixtures. The bathrooms have arrays of 4 60 Watt bulbs, and the master bath has a total of 8 60 W bulbs. With the high usage and so many bulbs, I could see my reserve going away.

So I tried some LED bulbs. Cree bulbs sold by Home Depot had a very good color rendering index and a suitable color temperature. I am very pleased with them. I can't see much if any difference between them and incandescent bulbs. They have been totally reliable; no failures in the time I've had them. That's around two years now. I'm not sure if they're still sold at Home Depot, but I'd buy more as needed.

For those of you having physiological issues with LED bulbs, I have read about their flicker characteristics. They use switching converters to step down line voltage to a lower voltage for the LEDs. With a low enough frequency and chintzy filtering, they can produce flickering light. It's akin to fluorescent flicker, but at higher frequency. It's not nearly as obvious, but detectable with quick eye movements. Sometimes you can see its effects by waving your fingers quickly in front of a bulb. Many people feel fatigued by these lights and some have adverse reactions. Cheap generally means marginal design and possibly more flicker. Expensive is no guarantee, but the odds are better for less flicker. Some countries are looking into flicker and grading bulbs accordingly. I haven't seen that parameter associated with bulbs in the US, but maybe someday we will hopefully see it.
 
I'm still using incandescent bulbs bought at about $.15. One just burned out after about 2 years, time to dig another out of the stockpile.

My house has a outside light next to the side garage door. When the house was built there was woods next door, we left that incandescent bulb on 24/7. Only time it was off is if the power was out. That bulb lasted 6 years, and was still going when I replaced it with a yellow bulb.

Not sure who it was made by, the builders put it in.

I have warm white LED lights all over my house. Never had a problem.
 
I was a late adopter of LED bulbs. I detested the compact fluorescent bulbs and bought maybe one or two total. So around the time we were being forced to abandon incandescent bulbs, I began to stockpile them.

I got concerned that I'd deplete my stash in some of the highly used fixtures. The bathrooms have arrays of 4 60 Watt bulbs, and the master bath has a total of 8 60 W bulbs. With the high usage and so many bulbs, I could see my reserve going away.

So I tried some LED bulbs. Cree bulbs sold by Home Depot had a very good color rendering index and a suitable color temperature. I am very pleased with them. I can't see much if any difference between them and incandescent bulbs. They have been totally reliable; no failures in the time I've had them. That's around two years now. I'm not sure if they're still sold at Home Depot, but I'd buy more as needed.

For those of you having physiological issues with LED bulbs, I have read about their flicker characteristics. They use switching converters to step down line voltage to a lower voltage for the LEDs. With a low enough frequency and chintzy filtering, they can produce flickering light. It's akin to fluorescent flicker, but at higher frequency. It's not nearly as obvious, but detectable with quick eye movements. Sometimes you can see its effects by waving your fingers quickly in front of a bulb. Many people feel fatigued by these lights and some have adverse reactions. Cheap generally means marginal design and possibly more flicker. Expensive is no guarantee, but the odds are better for less flicker. Some countries are looking into flicker and grading bulbs accordingly. I haven't seen that parameter associated with bulbs in the US, but maybe someday we will hopefully see it.

CFL's are/were useless
Turn on light...
Three hours later ...... it's up to half brightness where you won't stub your toe on your way to bed.:D
The 1 AM call of nature? :D ..... kiss your toes goodbye.
At least ANY LED will be full brightness in your time of need.

Flicker issues ... I've noticed it.
LED stands for Light Emitting Diode. It's the diode part that's the problem here.
They are pulling technologies out of the electronics parts bin for these things. They only flow electrons one way, blocking flow the other. In an AC environment its on less than half the time.
If full wave bridge rectified, it still has some ripple
In audio, this would be equal to the amount of hum you hear from a cheap radio. In a light, it's flicker.
Audio proves they can eliminate it as you climb the quality food chain. Unlike high end audio, you won't pay for that supply and filtering in a light bulb, so they don't offer it.
 
I can't see how handling an LED bulb would shorten its life. Same for an incandescent bulb.

I am wrong on several things. It’s halogen that fingerprints affect. The heat and oil mess the bulb up.

No LV my bulb was not led. I just went and looked at the package. The last bulb I had to replace was big and round with a brass base. I guess I assumed it wasn’t a regular bulb with a new look.
 
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