The best progressive loader for pistol ammo?

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What is the best progressive loader for pistol ammo made? Critera is first, QUALITY & reliability. Second is ease of operation. Not an issue but, what might be the price for such an animal.

I have potentialy 5 calibers that might be reloaded. 9MM, 45 ACP, 45 Colt, 44mag/sp., and 357mag/38sp.

Or is that seven? Brand new to the game of reloading and when I buy tools, I like to buy the best. Any advice for if I do decide to jump into it is appreciated.
 
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Buy a Dillon and don't look back, the customer service is outstanding and once you get set up with the conversions for different calibers you are ready for a lifetime of service. I have the 550b and a "Square Deal" as well .
 
Thank guys. Went on their website and took a gander.

I have a question. More than one person on this site has said NOT to use your own handloads for personal defense purposes.

Why in the world not? It seems to me that you could trust your own loading at least as much as commercial/factory loaded rounds.

What gives?!
 
If you are loading only handgun ammo, then the Dillon Square Deal is a good option.

I have three and they all work very well for my needs. (You cannot load rifle on these machines.) I have two set up for small primers (38 & 9mm) and one for large (45).

The only drawback is that the 'window' for access is a little small if you have large hands and the dies are propietory, slightly more expensive and are not interchangable with any other brands.

I have found these press' to be extremely reliable and churn out very accurate ammo in a short amount of time. I thouroghly enjoy reloading and really like using the SDB's. Coming off of using a single stage was a real eye opener, even though I don't load for speed and quantity, I love to hear the clunk of another round dropping into the loaded bin.
 
If price isn't a real issue, buy a Dillon 650. Caliber conversions are a bit more than the manual index 550 like I use, but it has a 5th station which allows the use of a powder check system that will catch double charges or squibs. You can make a lot of ammo in a short time on a 550 or a 650. For 5 calibers the 650 will cost $2-300 more, but if you can swing it you will be glad you did. I really like my 550, but if I had it to do over I might spring for the 650 if I had the extra money.
 
Dillon. For as many calibers as you list, 550 or 650 better than the Square Deal.

Handloads for self defense? Why not? A lawyer can make any act seem like a premeditated holocaust.
 
Dillon. For as many calibers as you list, 550 or 650 better than the Square Deal.

Handloads for self defense? Why not? A lawyer can make any act seem like a premeditated holocaust.[/QUOTE

Is THAT the reason then? Because if you shoot an intruder with your hand -load, some ambulance chaser can paint it to seem like you made "special" bullets tailor made to kill another human?

That's the reason some recommend not using your own?:mad:
 
I have a 650 set up for my .38 specials and reload about 2000 rounds a month on it.

For all my other large primer calibers I use my 550. I hate changing out the primer systems.

It's so easy to change the tool heads for caliber conversions. I have one for 303,45, 44, 7.62.56, 454-70, 38-55.

I also have extra powder measures set up for the most used rounds that I do. Saves a lot of time and it's not too expensive.
 
Thanks again people for all the good info/advice. I think that I'll probably get the 650 with all the different dies when I'm ready to pull the trigger.;):)
 
It all depends on your needs, present and future. A SDB is a great machine and for a beginner with the need to make a bunch of ammo, they are the ticket. Just a couple of things about it make it something that isn't too willing to "grow" with. Dies are proprietary and expensive. The work area is small and can be troublesome if you have hands like a gorilla, which I do. ;) That being said, I have three of the little babies and love them. Another down side to them is that they will ONLY do pistol cartridges. And the last thing is that they don't have a case feeder designed for them. Like I said, they are a great, well built, simple press to run and work on. Used ones can be had for $150 - $200, check ebay.

The XL650 can do all common pistol and rifle cartridges. The dies are not proprietary but the caliber changes can be a bit salty. The 5th hole, made for a powder check die is invaluable. I have one of them too. I am migrating all of my SDB needs to it. Has a case feeder option and you can really crank out the ammo. A great machine.

The 1050 is out of my price range and the no nonsense warranty doesn't apply to it. It will do military cases on the press. Something that would be a nice feature.

As for handloads for self defense; check your local laws, that's what will govern whether you can use them or not. As for the other issues concerning them, there has never been a case, at last check, where handloads was THE issue in a SELF DEFENSE shooting. The case that is often used to prove they are taboo is a case where they were trying to determine whether to charge someone with murder or to deem it a suicide. Called the Daniel Bias case.

Lots of experts though have pontificated that you will go directly to jail if you use your own homegrown ammo in a defensive shooting. I think that just adds fuel to the litigious issues surrounding the issue. "This firearms expert says........." Imagine being in court and having to fight your own side! What I want to do is tell them to chew on a pair of socks, friend! ;)
 
Also consider the Hornady LNL-AP. It is similar to the Dillion 650. I really like the LNL bushing system. It allows individual dies (including the powder measure) to be easily inserted and removed. I think this helps set up the dies. Each die can individually be inserted, set up, and removed without changing the settings. Once they are all done, plug them all in start loading.
 
I sure like my Hornady LNL. It makes lots of ammo and is cheap and easy to change cals.
 
I've also been very happy with my Hornady LNL. Caliber changes are painless and it works real well.
 
I'm very partial to the Dillon SDB, because I own one :) That said, if I were looking for a "do everything" press today I would look very seriously at Hornady's Lock and Load - it appears to be equivalent to Dillon's XL650 at a much lower price point.

I usually sit down in front of my SDB, load up primer tubes, adjust powder throw, arrange materials and knock out 300-350 45acp rounds - all of that in an hour. It really is a fast little machine.
 
Dillon 550B's are my choice

I have two Dillon 550B's with all the attachments.
One is used for the rimmed cartridges only.

I've been reloading for awhile and reload 11 types of rounds that are an assortment of similar calibers;
9 m.m., .356 TSW, .357 SIG, .40 S&W, 10 m.m., .38 Wad Cutters, .38 Special/Magnum, .44 Special/Magnum, .45 ACP
I have 5 change plates and pins to cover all these sizes, 5 powder drops.
11+1 individual die sets in the aluminum tool heads to facilitate 10 minute change-over's,
the +1 is a .40/10 m.m. sizing die in a block by itself to decap and size the larger portion of the .357 SIG and 10 m.m. as a sole operation.
Not necessary but that's just the way I do it.
Can't forget all the stands to hold the tool heads.
10 small and 10 large primer tubes that allows me to nock out a s**t-load at one time, when I'm in the mood.
Regards,
BM1
 
I've only used two progressives in my life, a Lee pro 1000 and an RCBS Piggyback II conversion on a Reloader Special 5 press. The pro 1000 got thrown in the trash a long time ago as it was the biggest piece of garbage I ever saw. I like the PBII and use if for all my quantity loading, but it has been replaced with newer updated versions like the Piggyback III and IV. One is a progressive while the other is manually indexed, but I think they both use the APS priming system which is a big plus, at least to me. I wanted to order a Dillion when I first heard of them but the catalog they sent me told me everything about them except how to order one.

The 'handloads for self defense' issue has been beat to death several times here in the past. If you haven't received enough information about it send me a PM and I'll give you both sides of the debate, as unBIASed as I can. There are jurisdictions that do outlaw their use and others that may have laws pertaining to what can be used as self defense ammo so make sure you know them for your area and wherever you may travel to.
 
I've had good luck with Dillon and prefer them. Started with a 550 but sold it for a 650. I now have a 650 for small primer loads and a 1050 for large primer.

One word of advice which applies to any progressive press. And this was the reason I sold the 550. Make sure the press has a station for a powder check die. Sooner or later the press will throw erratic charges and it's better to find this out at the press and not in the gun.
 
Greetings
Dillon ! I have had a 550 since 1987. I load all the calibers you mentioned + and several magnums and two Supermags.
The Dillon works ! Just follow directions, learn the machine, and if anything breaks Dillon fixes it.
 

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