The Bren Ten Curse

[bc1023]

Since the gun was patterned off the CZ75, I don't see why anyone would buy it over a current 10mm CZ. I couldn't quite remember what they looked like and after doing a Google image search, frankly they look ugly. I don't see any market for a reproduction at all.

Lol

Considering the originals can bring ten grand or more these days, you clearly have some learning to do on what the market wants.

10mm Tanfos don't cut it.

 

[Apathesis]

Reviving this old thread to say that the VLTOR Fortis failed because Eric Kincel left the company and the project was his baby. I believe this is mentioned in a Larry Vickers video on the BT.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

I knew the Colonel some, not as well as others, I never found him to be an ***, as was hinted at here by someone.

Really wasn't hinting at anything. Thought I was pretty clear about my feelings towards the good Colon...... el.

 

[DWalt]

Unrelated, but Don Johnson is back, sans his Bren Ten. He plays the captain of a luxury cruise ship on the new ABC TV series called "Doctor Odyssey." Not nearly as cool as Sonny Crockett, but he does a pretty good job of keeping some of his older female passengers happy. Worth watching.

 

[VictorLouis]

Saw a NIB Bren Ten bi-tone at the weekend's fun-show. Had a mag inserted, but the box contents were not on display. I had left my cell in the car, else I'd have pix.

$15K

 

[dobk63]

I remember seeing one at a AGCA show in Birmingham in the early 2000s. It was 45acp caliber and priced at $1200, want to think it was maybe a Marksman Special Match. I asked a RKI about it and he told me to pass. :^(

 

[fdover]

I have a Bren Ten that I purchased in 1985 that cost $530 and it had 1 mag. I've only shot it with the hot Norma rounds of the day. but not many. If I remember correctly about 30 rounds. Tried to find the spent rounds but they were launched 30 + feet behind me. The reason I quite shooting it was the writing about the guns slide blowing up. I was going to have it checked but never did. It only gets looked at when I open the safe to look at something else

 

[10mmauto]

I have a Bren Ten that I purchased in 1985 that cost $530 and it had 1 mag. I've only shot it with the hot Norma rounds of the day. but not many. If I remember correctly about 30 rounds. Tried to find the spent rounds but they were launched 30 + feet behind me. The reason I quite shooting it was the writing about the guns slide blowing up. I was going to have it checked but never did. It only gets looked at when I open the safe to look at something else

Wanna sell it?

 

[bc1023]

Hmm…I've got a couple still NIB. A standard model and a super desirable Special Forces Light…

 

[10mmauto]

I owned a number of Bren Tens - Standard models, SFL's, Marksman Specials - sadly, all gone now. I remember one Special Forces Light, serial number 84SFL0300 - easy to remember that serial number! That's the one gun I wish I had back! Still have the Pistol Permit stub.

 

[BB57]

[QUOTE And people say Glock's are ugly?

Say wha-a-a-a-t??? No! You must be mistaken. Why the blocky, flat-topped shape and the warm, squishy feel of gen-you-wine plastic in the hand just makes every grocery store stock-boy feel right at home, longing for some barcodes to scan.

Don't forget the trigger pull with it's homey, sentimental feel of your granddaddy's craftsman staple gun.

 

[BB57]

Lol

Considering the originals can bring ten grand or more these days, you clearly have some learning to do on what the market wants.

10mm Tanfos don't cut it.

"That" market is paying low 5 figures for a gun that is desirable and collectible *because* it was a commercial failure and wasn't made in great numbers. The fact that it is iconic in an i FAA lus failure sort of way actually helps.

Spending hundreds of thousands of dollars or more to tool up and produce a limited number of pistols that, beyond a very niche market, would need to compete with newer, better and far less expensive pistols isn't a business plan that will lead to success.

 

[Warren Sear]

If there was a demand for the Bren Ten, they would be on the market. There is no curse, the gun is just a lousy design.

 

[DWalt]

Had it not been for its association with Miami Vice, the BT would have quickly been forgotten forever. Regarding Jeff Cooper, there are probably dozens, maybe hundreds, of those on this forum who are superior gun experts.

 

[bc1023]

If there was a demand for the Bren Ten, they would be on the market. There is no curse, the gun is just a lousy design.

Design was fine and based on the CZ75. The issue was execution

 

[bc1023]

"That" market is paying low 5 figures for a gun that is desirable and collectible *because* it was a commercial failure and wasn't made in great numbers. The fact that it is iconic in an i FAA lus failure sort of way actually helps.

Spending hundreds of thousands of dollars or more to tool up and produce a limited number of pistols that, beyond a very niche market, would need to compete with newer, better and far less expensive pistols isn't a business plan that will lead to success.

Yeah no kidding

I've been an advanced pistol collector for decades. I know what the Bren Ten is and what it isn't. Not quality, but a lot of cool factor.

 

[19leben]

Well if someone decides to bring the Bren Ten back to market I'm definitely a buyer. I knew about the gun and wanted one way before Miami Vice. It's a cool looking gun regardless of what a bunch of naysayers are spewing.

 

[LVSteve]

Design was fine and based on the CZ75. The issue was execution

Same game with the Steyr GB design being messed up to become the Rogak.

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

This thread makes me want a WILDY...........

 

[Rock185]

I had an early Bren Ten, but I think later 10s are actually better pistols. I had 10mm Colt, Kimber, Glock and S&W semi-autos, and S&W and Ruger revolvers. Over time, my favorites became the S&W 10XX series..

 

[A10]

Cool thread, think I missed it the first time out. I'm out of popcorn now.

 

[rosewood]

I had an early Bren Ten, but I think later 10s are actually better pistols. I had 10mm Colt, Kimber, Glock and S&W semi-autos, and S&W and Ruger revolvers. Over time, my favorites became the S&W 10XX series..

1026! My dad had one, unfortunately some lowlife wanted it more than he did. Still hoping it will show up on the serial number search and find its way home.

Rosewood

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

Interesting that such a short lived production pistol has such a cachet, a mystique. The 10MM Auto seems to be out of fashion at present.

 

[stansdds]

Interesting that such a short lived production pistol has such a cachet, a mystique. The 10MM Auto seems to be out of fashion at present.

As others have said, had it not been for the TV series, "Miami Vice", the Bren Ten would have been little more than a footnote in firearms history. As for the 10mm Auto being out of fashion, it is sort of, but like the .41 Magnum, it still has a strong following. Based on what I have seen on my local retailer's shelves, it's quite a bit more popular than .41 Magnum.

 

[BigMuddy]

Interesting that such a short lived production pistol has such a cachet, a mystique. The 10MM Auto seems to be out of fashion at present.

I would have to say the opposite. I believe the 10mm is more popular now than at any time in its history, even more so than the brief period when it was the FBI's choice cartridge. It has gathered quite a following as a "bear buster". Would not be my first choice for that role but a great cartridge nonetheless.

Dan

 

[Brian Parrish]

Interesting that such a short lived production pistol has such a cachet, a mystique. The 10MM Auto seems to be out of fashion at present.

Four years ago, or even two years ago, the date of this thread, I would have agreed, but today it seems all the rage.
Is the red dot craze finally ended?
What is the next shooter's fad.
Did anybody ever put a red dot on a 2-inch j frame?
Chambered in 10mm, I am on to something

 

[LVSteve]

Interesting that such a short lived production pistol has such a cachet, a mystique. The 10MM Auto seems to be out of fashion at present.

A certain bulk seller was advertising the Rock Island 1911 in 10 mm for $379. Don't know if that was a misprint or the guns are bankrupt stock.

 

[rosewood]

A certain bulk seller was advertising the Rock Island 1911 in 10 mm for $379. Don't know if that was a misprint or the guns are bankrupt stock.

My 22 TCM was $349+ tax. Got it in my hand for just under $400. It is the double stack 1911 RIA 5" with lots of bells and whistles. Came with 3 mags. It is the TAC model. Same frame as the double stack 10mm, just different slide and barrel.

Rosewood

 

[DWalt]

Never owned anything in 10mm or .40, do not plan to start now. But I do have a .400 CorBon barrel for a M1911 and a die set. That will duplicate the 10mm's performance if ever needed. Only sacrifice is magazine capacity.

 

[Ameshawki]

I like Miami Vice as much as the next person but have never understood the fascination with the Bren Ten. I don't mind 10mm, I have a Glock 20. The the Bren Ten is, in my view, about the ugliest pistol ever produced. Or barely produced.