I was wondering about this...I'll stay with diesel, thank you...
...Ben
...Ben
The cost of driving electrically...
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We are excellent candidates for EV usage, my wife drives her fifteen year old Camry Hybrid so seldom that on some occasions I need to hook up a battery charger. What turned me off initially was the need to install a 220 outlet in the garage for the charger. I'm still not sold and when a number of automakers are dropping EV production that leads me to believe there is something afoot.
I'm going to wait a while, I'm a hardcore fan of gasoline engines but I am intrigued by some of the new plug-in hybrid cars. I like the idea of having a normal gas engine and transmission with an electric motor and small battery for added gas mileage and especially, added performance. I like acceleration and many of the PHEV cars and SUVs get great gas mileage and have amazing acceleration with 5 second zero to sixty times being fairly common.
SnidelyWhiplash
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We just traded my wife’s 2015 Ford Fusion plug-in hybrid on a new Lincoln Corsair plug-in. Our experience with the Fusion was very positive…it got a combined 67 mpge. The Corsair is rated at 80 mpge…we’ll see if that holds true.
My wife’s 90 year old dad is now thinking of trading his Honda CRV hybrid on a similar Lincoln plug-in after seeing ours.
My wife’s 90 year old dad is now thinking of trading his Honda CRV hybrid on a similar Lincoln plug-in after seeing ours.
For lightly driven vechicles there is a rather cheap device called a Tender that will keep your battery up. I have used them when I stored my summer only Vette for 7 months at a time.
A good made battery tender is what you need not a charger or trickle charger. Most any big box sells them mine came from Walmart! I have 3
LVSteve
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Diesel here is great. It often costs less than regular, but there is a catch. Here in Clark County NV we have to get AWD diesels and those where you cannot defeat the traction control smog checked on a four-wheel rolling road. There is but one location, and it costs about $100 for a smog check. If I lived over the border in Nye county, or in AZ, I'd pay zero. Why do we have this bonkers requirement? We had too many of the brodozer clan rolling coal, and the pollution here can get close to LA levels with the right weather. High pressure and heat usually do it, like we expect next week.
My ML is AWD, so it requires the expensive check. My BMW allows you to kill the traction control, so a two-wheel rolling road will suffice. Still get dinged about $35.
My ML is AWD, so it requires the expensive check. My BMW allows you to kill the traction control, so a two-wheel rolling road will suffice. Still get dinged about $35.
I do not expect that the Electric car is going to take hold any time soon. This is a DC disaster, and the car manufacturers jumped in. I wonder how much money we gave them in the name of research grants?
It is going to take another 25 years and trillions of dollars to make this work. It is just another Val-U-Jet flying over the Everglades. Tail up, Nose down.
And skip the tax deductions. Make it real money with copays
It is going to take another 25 years and trillions of dollars to make this work. It is just another Val-U-Jet flying over the Everglades. Tail up, Nose down.
And skip the tax deductions. Make it real money with copays
IF they can eliminate the HEAVY range limiting batteries that power ALL electric vehicles....the electric car will be a threat to ICE (internal combustion engine) vehicles.
I'd even buy one as electric performance is amazing. But...not yet,with those damn lardy chemical factories on board.
Until then, the best vehicle for mileage extension over an ICE is a hybrid. (gas/diesel-electric)
C'mon Kirk..beam your butt down with the dilithium crystals!
Or naqueda..or dark matter...ANYTHING but batteries.
I'd even buy one as electric performance is amazing. But...not yet,with those damn lardy chemical factories on board.
Until then, the best vehicle for mileage extension over an ICE is a hybrid. (gas/diesel-electric)
C'mon Kirk..beam your butt down with the dilithium crystals!
Or naqueda..or dark matter...ANYTHING but batteries.
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I keep my Model A on the tender all the time. Trouble with the wife's car is I never know when she wants to use it and I would have to put a note on the steering wheel to remind her to unhook the tender. I just wait for the odd time she mentions an issue, install a battery charger and were good to go until she needs it again. When she used to carry product in the trunk I had a heating blanket under it in the winter, that was when we kept the note on the wheel. After she drove off once dragging the blankets electrical cord.
Spajohn
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THE PILGRIM
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My SIL knows a guy who makes trips to Las Cruces in his Tesla.
That’s about 225 miles straight down the Interstate.
His Tesla won’t make it without a stop for a charge.
Pass!
That’s about 225 miles straight down the Interstate.
His Tesla won’t make it without a stop for a charge.
Pass!
Two days ago.
European 2030 EV Sales Targets Slashed Again, Raising ICE Ban Doubt.
“Europeans will buy 2 million fewer electric vehicles a year in 2030 than investment researcher Jefferies had previously predicted, joining other forecasters busily slashing predictions.
If sales don’t recover, the European Union’s ban on the sale of new combustion cars by 2035 will be undermined”
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“Last week, a study from management consultants McKinsey torpedoed the conventional wisdom that consumers, once converted to EVs, will remain convinced for life. The study said more than 40% of U.S. EV buyers want to return to internal combustion engine cars.
Electric car sales in Europe, and the U.S., have been faltering and the Volkswagen, BMW, Mercedes, GM and Ford have scaled back over-ambitious targets.
A couple of months ago investment bank UBS said Europeans will buy almost nine million fewer electric vehicles between 2024 and 2030 than expected.“
European 2030 EV Sales Targets Slashed Again, Raising ICE Ban Doubt.
“Europeans will buy 2 million fewer electric vehicles a year in 2030 than investment researcher Jefferies had previously predicted, joining other forecasters busily slashing predictions.
If sales don’t recover, the European Union’s ban on the sale of new combustion cars by 2035 will be undermined”
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“Last week, a study from management consultants McKinsey torpedoed the conventional wisdom that consumers, once converted to EVs, will remain convinced for life. The study said more than 40% of U.S. EV buyers want to return to internal combustion engine cars.
Electric car sales in Europe, and the U.S., have been faltering and the Volkswagen, BMW, Mercedes, GM and Ford have scaled back over-ambitious targets.
A couple of months ago investment bank UBS said Europeans will buy almost nine million fewer electric vehicles between 2024 and 2030 than expected.“
A family member told me she just went from Oklahoma City to Tulsa with her friend in the friends new Tesla and they had trouble finding charging stations and when they did the connector was not compatible with the Tesla. The cars electric gauge showed they had plenty of juice to make it back to Oklahoma city so they headed back. The gauge then started showing a much different reading and it indicated they could not make it. They were very nervous but luckily made it back home.
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And....... last week, while renewing my Texas truck registration, I noticed on the back of the form that electric vehicles will be charged $200.00 annually. I assume to make up for loss of revenue from the gasoline tax that is supposed to be for maintenance of highways and roads.I was wondering about this...I'll stay with diesel, thank you...
THE PILGRIM
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When Ford comes out with its next-gen T3 electric pickups, I'm buying one.
Stopgap or not, Ford has trouble building enough F-150 Lightnings to meet demand, so don't expect the company to feel a burning desire to kick the T3 out the door before it's well and truly ready. We imagine it won't go on sale before late 2025 at the earliest. Access Denied
Stopgap or not, Ford has trouble building enough F-150 Lightnings to meet demand, so don't expect the company to feel a burning desire to kick the T3 out the door before it's well and truly ready. We imagine it won't go on sale before late 2025 at the earliest. Access Denied
SnidelyWhiplash
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The local Ford dealer has a F-150 Lightning on their sales floor and it hasn't moved...and this is a huge truck area in AZ. The $90k sticker price may be scaring people off.
Yup - the top-of-the line ones are rich man's toys best suited for east/west coasts and the midwest. Not the desert southwest.
taz666
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No reason grocery shopping and short trips around your area can't/shouldn't be done via an EV. .... but ... these types of vehicles should be like the old VW Beetles. Barebones and Cheap.
