The cost of driving electrically...

Interesting rates in the video pf $0.64 vs $0.50 for the evening fill up. I consider $0.20 per KW highway robbery.

With the predicted battery life I can see the trade in value of an EV being much less than 30% of cost after 5 years. I am not ready to accept that kind of loss on investment, let alone how I would stay warm in below sero weather.

Yeah, WA, ID, and MT have about the best electricity rates in the whole country - thanks to the BPA.
But elsewhere, that $0.50-$0.64 per KW isn't all that unusual - especially during peak demand hours...
 
C'mon guys! Last estimate I heard indicated we only have about 300 years of proven petroleum reserves left. What are we gonna do after that is gone?

LOL, when you consider the advances in technology in the last 50 years, I think it is safe to say that the next 300 years is plenty of time to figure it out.

We certainly DON'T need Big Brother forcing us all to adopt the current level of technology in the next 5-10 years.
 
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C'mon guys! Last estimate I heard indicated we only have about 300 years of proven petroleum reserves left. What are we gonna do after that is gone?
Within 300 years, it is a near-certainty that most energy will come from nuclear sources, maybe even nuclear fusion. Or even some other source(s) unknown to us today.
 
It is the use of accessories that take many EV owners by surprise. Every electrical device you run in the car take miles away from range. Those mileage numbers that EV manufactures claim are worse lies than gas engine car manufacturers claims. Car & Driver did a study on the use of heaters and air-conditioners to find they can can cut mileage on a charge in half.

Mileage loss is about the same when using either heater or a/c, so the use of any HVAC in EVs dramatically affects mileage per charge. Chart below states consumption in watt-hours per mile and range in miles. I once read an article promoting the use of EVs where the author told readers to dress for the cold when driving an EV in the winter.

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All well within the minimum ranges of modern EVs. Even with a heater or air conditioner running full blast.

i would have to give a just maybe on that statement. Consider leave the vehicle out doors to charge( the smart thing with EVs) gotta go to the hospital at 0 dark 30 at 30 below. Hopefully you'd get out of the driveway Even ICE vehicles aren't really reliable at that kind of times...but usually ok if they start. Usually we stay in at 20 below or more except for necessities
 
If you have to charge at a retail charging station it's not very practical, or economical. I'm a perfect candidate. All we do is make short trips, and not many of those.

I also have spare electrical capacity in the garage. There used to be a clothes dryer out there but we bought one of those new-fangled "ventless" all-in-one GE machines that only needs a single 110v outlet and has no exhaust vent.
 
I believe it and I bet you helped to extinguish many of them. In our brave new BEV world, when a vehicle catches on fire, the only smart move is to runaway. Something is wrong with this picture.

Some I could damp down with with fire extinguishers, but by no means all. It just depended on lots of variables. As a general rule it's better when cars and trucks don't catch on fire.
 
'23 Lightning ER and '18 Chevy Volt owner here. Wife drives the Volt, a great hybrid that rolls on battery for 99% of her driving. Had well over a dozen trucks, including 3 Raptors and a Powerboost.

There's a seat for every butt. The Lightning is great in so many ways in spite of its well documented shortcomings.

Musk is a dufus alien from outer space so not going Tesla route based on that belief.

Having access to a tow vehicle or renting a tow vehicle when needed is the best bet if towing needs are more than occasional. Light towing no problem.

Charging at home is critical since DC fast charging is much more expensive and harder on the battery array. That's the rub - many people who would benefit (i.e. city/urban dwellers) do not have a way to charge at home.

They'll be ICE and EV cohabitating on the roadways for many years to come.
 
It is the use of accessories that take many EV owners by surprise. Every electrical device you run in the car take miles away from range. Those mileage numbers that EV manufactures claim are worse lies than gas engine car manufacturers claims. Car & Driver did a study on the use of heaters and air-conditioners to find they can can cut mileage on a charge in half.

Mileage loss is about the same when using either heater or a/c, so the use of any HVAC in EVs dramatically affects mileage per charge. Chart below states consumption in watt-hours per mile and range in miles. I once read an article promoting the use of EVs where the author told readers to dress for the cold when driving an EV in the winter.

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And if you roll your windows down in the summer - instead of using the AC - you lose mileage due to the additional drag. Not as much as using the AC, but still...
 
'23 Lightning ER and '18 Chevy Volt owner here. Wife drives the Volt, a great hybrid that rolls on battery for 99% of her driving. Had well over a dozen trucks, including 3 Raptors and a Powerboost.

There's a seat for every butt. The Lightning is great in so many ways in spite of its well documented shortcomings.

Musk is a dufus alien from outer space so not going Tesla route based on that belief.

Having access to a tow vehicle or renting a tow vehicle when needed is the best bet if towing needs are more than occasional. Light towing no problem.

Charging at home is critical since DC fast charging is much more expensive and harder on the battery array. That's the rub - many people who would benefit (i.e. city/urban dwellers) do not have a way to charge at home.

They'll be ICE and EV cohabitating on the roadways for many years to come.

Now you're in trouble - you've offered actual experience!
 
I think you have been directed to the wrong sites to read. There isestimated 225 years of recoverable oil at today's technology. That is for the US. one field here in Wyoming(near Green River) that has an The oil field in Eastern Montana that Biden shut down has at least as much. There are other proven reserves of near the same size throughout the US...oh and ol ME continues to make oil...it isn't dinosaurs you know? No matter what Sinclair says

No oil field in Eastern Montana was shutdown by anyone. The number of drilling rigs in the Balkan did drop dramatically but in 2018, well before Joe. Main reason was the low price of crude. While good crude it is also a very high cost recovery oil. My one brother lives in a small town in the oil fields of eastern Montana. All the man camps were gone by 2019

I spend a good part of my 20s and early 30s on rotary drilling rigs. Boom bust boom bust

BTW US oil production had a record high last year. Over 5% higher that the previous record high in 2019. Those numbers come directly from the producers own numbers.

The price of fuel has almost doubled which interestingly enough matched the fact that the oil majors profits have also doubled. Once again those numbers come from their very own quarterly financial reports.
 
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