I'd consider a 3 wheeler with a seat back and big ol' basket.
Quick search found mountain (?) bikes with 7 speeds and shocks.
The cost of driving electrically...
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Quick search found mountain (?) bikes with 7 speeds and shocks.
Interesting rates in the video pf $0.64 vs $0.50 for the evening fill up. I consider $0.20 per KW highway robbery.
With the predicted battery life I can see the trade in value of an EV being much less than 30% of cost after 5 years. I am not ready to accept that kind of loss on investment, let alone how I would stay warm in below sero weather.
With the predicted battery life I can see the trade in value of an EV being much less than 30% of cost after 5 years. I am not ready to accept that kind of loss on investment, let alone how I would stay warm in below sero weather.
27 miles and crossing the continental divide to get to Walmart. Winco, Smiths, and Costco are 55 miles.
The Norseman
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Incorrect Power to the People
I'd like a Pickup, but get a hold of me when batteries go
1000 miles on a charge in -30° weather, head wind 25mph
in the dead of winter pulling a horse trailer.
Then be able to recharge the battery in 15 minutes after
checking on the cattle or driving across the State.
Then the next three worn out Battery is no cost exchange
to me because on the Company's inept ability to produce
a dependable battery. The disposal cost is to the Company.
I'd like a Pickup, but get a hold of me when batteries go
1000 miles on a charge in -30° weather, head wind 25mph
in the dead of winter pulling a horse trailer.
Then be able to recharge the battery in 15 minutes after
checking on the cattle or driving across the State.
Then the next three worn out Battery is no cost exchange
to me because on the Company's inept ability to produce
a dependable battery. The disposal cost is to the Company.
I, too, would be a buyer. However, I would also want faux electronic dual pipes that belched the throaty melody of a flowmaster exhaust system.
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I still raise the question about how are the electric users going to pay for the wear and tear on the roads? The gas/diesel users pay by the gal purchased. If the elec users charge up at home, where is that pay coming from? Each state will need resolutions as well as the Fed's.
Doug M.
Member
In general, EVs are a scam. The infrastructure cost is staggering and nowhere of which I am aware is capable of sustaining them.
Hybrids without plugins might be ok for some users, myself included.
Hybrids without plugins might be ok for some users, myself included.
LVSteve
Member
EVs will give states the perfect reason to introduce mileage based taxation. Then the next gag will to add tax based on vehicle weight to push down sales of larger vehicles.
LVSteve
Member
That piece is from last year. If the brakes have gone on hard for EV sales in the last 12 months, I wouldn't be surprised.
DWalt
Member
As previously noted, Texas already has an annual registration surcharge for EVs, and there are probably other states with similar EV surcharges or soon will be. As time goes on, the bureaucrats will probably mandate a mileage-based fee system. An ideal AI system that will track the mileage of every vehicle in real time and send you a mileage-based fee billing every month. Lots of room for such mischief to begin, probably things no one has yet imagined, like a KWH tax on electricity used to charge your EV's batteries.
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washington is $80 for phev or ev.
The cost of a BEV? Too much! I am not talking money, I'm talking about the 2013 flood, I'm talking about yearly wild fires or even when a local natural gas junction went down in December -10, when it is time to go my family will go. I don't want to think about hurricanes or all the other regular events where a BEV is just wrong. Local electrical power went out in two of the above scenarios. If it can go wrong it will, no BEVs ever. Hybrids and ICE for the win.
ps. if you need tax bribes to sell your product the nuns from my grade school years wouldn't assume BEVs are evil, they would know.
ps. if you need tax bribes to sell your product the nuns from my grade school years wouldn't assume BEVs are evil, they would know.
Visitors to the Mercedes-Benz Museum in Stuttgart, Germany, take an elevator to the 5th level to begin their tour. As the elevator nears the top of its climb, those inside hear the sound of a horse neighing. When the elevator door opens they are treated to this sight...
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LoboGunLeather
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C'mon guys! Last estimate I heard indicated we only have about 300 years of proven petroleum reserves left. What are we gonna do after that is gone?
Ya, my Grandpa didn't put his horses out to pasture when he first saw a model T, but he did end up driving a Plymouth.
Same questions Where is the gas going to come from, the tires wear out, there aren't gas stations everywhere, it will wear out, can't go in the mud, over rough ground, bla bla bla bla.
Same types of reasoning, there will always be lots of grass, a mare has a foal, I can buy plenty of good horses for that kind of money. My horse will never catch on fire.
Electric drive does make sense. But we are a long way from being where we need to be. Batteries are as big issue, power generation and distribution nearly as much of an issue. Also at this point in time, any environmental advantage of electric drive is imaginary
Same questions Where is the gas going to come from, the tires wear out, there aren't gas stations everywhere, it will wear out, can't go in the mud, over rough ground, bla bla bla bla.
Same types of reasoning, there will always be lots of grass, a mare has a foal, I can buy plenty of good horses for that kind of money. My horse will never catch on fire.
Electric drive does make sense. But we are a long way from being where we need to be. Batteries are as big issue, power generation and distribution nearly as much of an issue. Also at this point in time, any environmental advantage of electric drive is imaginary
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Well...
"Ford ended Q1 2024 with 7,743 Lightning sales, up 80% compared to the same period last year." 2024 Ford F-150 Lightning Goes Back On Sale After Two-Month Hiatus
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I think you have been directed to the wrong sites to read. There is one field here in Wyoming(near Green River) that has an estimated 225 years of recoverable oil at today's technology. That is for the US. The oil field in Eastern Montana that Biden shut down has at least as much. There are other proven reserves of near the same size throughout the US...oh and ol ME continues to make oil...it isn't dinosaurs you know? No matter what Sinclair says
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If EV's were such a good deal, you wouldn't be able to keep people from buying them. Buy one if you want one but leave my (undeleted) diesel pickup alone. There might be a day when people stand in line to buy EV's but my guess is the infrastructure will have to catch up and battery technology probably needs to make a quantum leap too.
