The FBI S&W Model 13 .357 Magnum M&P

[Qc Pistolero]

I've acquired my model 13 quite accidentally;among the crazy laws we got here in Canada,one of them states that a handgun with a 4'' barrel or less is prohibited.That means that you can't buy one exept if you already had one when the law was passed.Luckily,I had a few which gave me what they call a ''grandfather clause''.I can own or buy them but when I die,all the 12-6 guns(that's how they define the grandfather law)will have to be destroyed.
A couple of years ago,one of my acquintenance who knew I am into guns phoned me asking me if I wanted a model 13 in 4'' configuration.He told me: the cops are here asking me to give them my 4'' bbl model 13 since I haven't renewed my membership at the shooting club.They say I'm out of law.If you want it,get your butt in your car,bring along your firearm licence and come pick it up....and hurry.I'd rather let you have it than give it away to the govt.
The gun now sleeps peacefully in my saferoom.I like the little .357 a lot(even though I mainly shoot .38 SPL +P+ in it).Like the way it points,like the smooth action and looove the way it got to me!
Qc

 

[SeamasterSig]

When the 1076 was adopted, the FBI procured Model 13s were recalled and I have it on good authority wound up being destroyed and buried in a pit at Quantico.

My father was an agent back in the 70s-90s and once told me that his model 13 was indeed confiscated and destroyed. I understand that the Bureau felt the need to recall and replace these revolvers, but why destroy them? It makes no sense at all... unless you apply government logic.

I seem to recall him saying that many agents (himself included) would have gladly purchased their revolvers, but were not given the option.

 

[les.b]

To my agency's credit, when they transitioned from revolvers (S&W Model 66s) to semi-autos (Glock 23s), they allowed officers to purchase their issued gun for what Glock was offering in trade-in. The agency didn't lose any money, Glock didn't lose any money, and those revolvers that Glock took in trade were in turn sold to outfits like Southern Ohio, who in turn sold them them to FFLs, who sold them to individuals.

I bought both my issued 4" Model 66, and my 2 1/2". This is, in my opinion, what the FBI (and all other government agencies, whether local, county, state, or federal) should do. Taxpayer dollars are not squandered, and folks like us are made happy!!

Best Regards, Les

 

[F224]

M65-5 police trade in gun, it's now a slab sided 3" with a protected target crown XS Sights Big Dot front night sight, and CeraKoat in sniper grey and black. It is the gun I carry at my farm and in my pickup truck.



Controlled Chaos Arms in Baxter, Iowa did the work.

 

[Usmc5811]

F224 that 65-5 is sweet. Thanks for sharing, I'm quite envious now.

 

[F224]

F224 that 65-5 is sweet. Thanks for sharing, I'm quite envious now.

Find a round butt or standard M65, I know just the guy to do the work.

 

[grcoffman104]

Sorry to correct the OP and not to detract from his post about these fine revovlers, but Special Agents Grogan & Dove were SWAT agents and were armed with S&W 9mm auto pistols (59-series?) when they were killed. Other agents did use revolvers and the gunfight ended with a courageous and wounded agent firing his revolver into the suspect vehicle from close range.
May Agents Grogan & Dove rest in peace. They died heroically protecting the citizens of Miami from these two psycho killers.

F, Hinkle, deputy (ret)
SDMO/SDSD

459 Smith

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[Trooper Joe]

I'd have to agree, the 3" 13 is an outstanding revolver.

I have a 3" 65-5 and a 4" 13 as well, but I prefer the 3" 13 overall.

The blue is deep and the quality is high.

I'd love to know who made these grips. They came with mine and appear to be of new manufacture.

I added the BK.

Anybody know who made these?

They look a lot like these original grips on my 1925 M&P.



Trooper Joe

 

[Messer]

Jumping on the band wagon!

My 13-3 is the perfect combination of size, balance in the hand & power. While my EDC is usually a bottom feeder, the model 13 still gets in the rotation.

This one has a good home until I kick, and hopefully longer than that.

Bob S.

 

[Model39]

3" Nickel Model 13

I have a 3" nickel Model 13, which I think is on the scarce side as far as the numbers made with this finish. This one sports Spegel boot grips.

 

[Ole Joe Clark]

I just want to thank all the posters to this thread. Lots of LEO's and other knowledgeable folks sharing information with us. Very interesting subject and beautiful Smiths.

Have a blessed day,

Leon

 

[Federalis]

Carried one for about 12-13 years in the Bureau. Even had it when I was issued my 1076. Had no problem qualifying on the old RQC even back at 50 yards. The next one I see for sale will be mine. It was the last weapon I turned in before I retired in 2013 and our PFI (Primary Firearms Instructor) threatened to come to my house to get it if I didn't turn it in! We never did get the chance to buy 'em contrary to earlier reporting. When they were called to be turned in I think the Dems were still in charge and of course all guns are evil....

 

[Messer]

I just want to thank all the posters to this thread. Lots of LEO's and other knowledgeable folks sharing information with us. Very interesting subject and beautiful Smiths.

Have a blessed day,

Leon

Hear, hear!!!

For that, you get your 1000th "Like"

 

[wrangler5]

< snip > I understand that the Bureau felt the need to recall and replace these revolvers, but why destroy them? It makes no sense at all... unless you apply government logic. < snip >

For the aggressive left, of which Janet Reno is an archetype, only guns in the hands of their agents or surrogates are good, all other guns are bad. Since the FBI was discontinuing use of revolvers (which were "good" as long as they were in FBI hands), the only way to insure that they didn't fall into the hands of persons other than agents or surrogates of the gubmint, and thus become "bad" guns, was to destroy them.

The loss of money from selling the revolvers to the public, and the probable additonal cost of actually effecting the destruction, is completely irrelevant in the left's calculus. They would have had absolutely no hesitation in "losing/spending" $10,000 per gun if it meant one less gun that might be able to be used against them when the time came. (After all, it's not their money they're spending.)

Of course, they would spin it as "keeping guns off the streets" or "out of the hands of the wrong people," and of course the ever-popular "for the children". But things like Fast and Furious make it clear that they don't give a tinker's damn about guns on the street when (they think) there's a political benefit to putting guns out there.

 

[SeamasterSig]

For the aggressive left, of which Janet Reno is an archetype, only guns in the hands of their agents or surrogates are good, all other guns are bad.

This makes sense, in a twisted anti-gun sort of way. I'm surprised it never occurred to me.

 

[crsides]

I'm in the camp of the best size, power, handiness is the model 13 3" RB. I got these grips off ebay, someone is sanding them smooth and applying some sort of pattern to them, like impressed checkering. The grips really work well with the gun.

Slips in and out of the back pocket just fine.



Charlie

 

[18DAI]

A 3 inch 13-3 with rendered DAO with a spurless hammer and a slick action was the last revolver I qualified with and carried on the job. Back around 2008-09.

A very accurate revolver that carried and concealed very well. One of the last I'll part with. A perfect example of everything you need in a revolver and nothing you dont. Regards 18DAI

 

[rustednbustedchuck]

Is any body keeping track of the fbi gun serial numbers? Perhaps like the gentlemen that keep track of Victories? I have a gun bouncing around that serial range, but am wondering if as a financial gamble it worth it to get a factory letter. Total guns sold to the kgb, whoops, FBI at the time.