"The police killed my baby" in Houston

[3rd Gen Neal]

I'm not going to post a link because it's just another typical story of a thug running from the police. But my rant is the old deal where the parents lash out against the police because ther punk kid was breaking the law. It makes my blood boil. Scumbag running on foot, at night...1 cop on foot, 1 cop in Houston Police car chasing the thug. The HPD in car tried a tactical maneuver of some sort, went over a curb, the thug suddenly changed the direction he was running, was ACCIDENTALLY struck and killed by the HPD car. Thats too bad, would of never happened if the thug wasn't fleeing. Sure enough, the big fat mother was on tv (gold teeth/fingernails and all) yelling "they ran over my little baby like an animal, they killed my baby." Don't you guys here on the forum get furious when you see/hear that crap!!! Ok, I'm done venting...

 

[3rd Gen Neal]

I'm not going to post a link because it's just another typical story of a thug running from the police. But my rant is the old deal where the parents lash out against the police because ther punk kid was breaking the law. It makes my blood boil. Scumbag running on foot, at night...1 cop on foot, 1 cop in Houston Police car chasing the thug. The HPD in car tried a tactical maneuver of some sort, went over a curb, the thug suddenly changed the direction he was running, was ACCIDENTALLY struck and killed by the HPD car. Thats too bad, would of never happened if the thug wasn't fleeing. Sure enough, the big fat mother was on tv (gold teeth/fingernails and all) yelling "they ran over my little baby like an animal, they killed my baby." Don't you guys here on the forum get furious when you see/hear that crap!!! Ok, I'm done venting...

 

[jag312]

I'm sure her little baby had a long criminal record, which is evidence that the police were harassing him at every opportunity.

 

[oldRoger]

My baby was just trying to get his life together when they killed him.

 

[cmort666]

Stupid is as stupid does, cop or citizen.

When either screws up, their relatives and supporters are apt to say really stupid things to justify or excuse the things they did to get themselves into trouble.

 

[Uncle Larry]

....and he was just turning his life around.....

Methinks if the babymomma had raised her kid to be a good citizen, go to school, get an education, go to work (God forbid!!) and make even the slightest attempt at obeying the law.........



This wouldn't have happened.

 

[Erich]

Well . . . here you have the mother of a human being who's been killed, and she's upset. I guess I'm not surprised that she's upset, or that she says things that are not totally logical or that she fails to acknowledge the flaws of herself or her child at that moment.

I certainly have a knee-jerk reaction to want to be annoyed by such performances on TV, but . . . they're understandable.

While sanctimony is appealing sometimes, I hope I can be more compassionate about such things than I sometimes have been in the past - I try, anyway. I understand what you folks are saying, but would encourage everyone to look at what's happening through as understanding a lens as possible. It has to be terrible to lose a child.

On a related note, it often happens some mother of one of my clients tells me, "He's a good boy." Sometimes, as when he's older than me and has quite the lengthy record of pleas, I can't resist pointing out that - while he might be a fine person in many ways - he's not really "good" and he's certainly no longer a "boy." I generally try to resist suggesting that co-dependent parenting behavior like hers might explain why he has so much trouble in life. I think it's natural for parents to view their children through rose-colored glasses to some extent - the trick is to maintain a grasp on reality, I guess, in order to be able to guide them. Some folks don't seem to master that trick.

 

[FennRx]

erich, you're a better than man than me.

my knee-jerk reaction is how i feel.

 

[M16]

they ran over my little baby like an animal

Umm yes they did. Thats because he was an animal.

 

[mississippi revolverman]

Living in the Miami- Fort Lauderdale you see that cra- every day on the news. Then the report makes a short blep about the subject 28 other arrest

 

[bk43]

Originally posted by Erich:
While sanctimony is appealing sometimes, I hope I can be more compassionate about such things than I sometimes have been in the past - I try, anyway.

Classy post sir. I try also but you're doing a whole lot better than I. All parents see their children through primrose colored glasses. Some go beyond that stage into delusion and that seems especially to be true when a lack of parenting skills basically created a problem child.

Bob

 

[Gutpile Charlie]

Erich, I can't be as compassionate as you. Yes I know every case is different and I know in your line of work you've encounter far more scumbags than I have, however I still don't give them a pass. I don't give a grieving mother a pass just because she's a "grieving mother."

Maybe this is against human nature, but just because you gave birth to someone, that doesn't change what they are. Some parents just have to accept the fact that their offspring are worthless, no account criminals. I would venture a guess that "traditional values" are taught in far less than 50% of families. Many of these scum don't have families...just a mother that gave birth to them.

Her reaction might be expected, it also might be "normal", but when she reacts like that, she is part of the problem. She just needs to have her grief in silence and let the facts speak for themselves.

That's just my humble two cents worth.

 

[walter o]

I can also feel for tte police officer oho was driving the car, I am sure he is sorry the person is dead butin all fairness moma should have tought her baby to, #1 run faster, or#2 not commit the crime.When my children were growing up they were taught right from wrong by a mother & dad who took the responsability to be parents in pratcice, not in name only.

 

[ingmansinc]

I have to wonder why the mother of a police officer that gets killed in the line of duty isn't on tv screaming about the thug that killed her child.

 

[fiasconva]

While I have no sympathy for the thug I do feel for the mother,regardless of her lifestyle. She had nothing to do with him getting killed and only knows her child is dead. Once the shock wears off she may reconsider some of her statements. Most of our mothers, no matter how old we get will still think us of as their little boys, no matter what we do. That being said, I guess he zigged when he shouda zagged.

 

[Guest]

Over a number of Years I was involved with Ted Bundy and that included find two of his victim here in the NW. It also involved having to put up with him in the County Jail while he was being interviewed about a number of others. But, the Worst of the Worst was having to put up with his Mother when she would come to visit him and her ranting and raving about his being framed by the police and what a wonderful "boy" he was etc. To his dying day she had convinced herself he couldn't have done the things he did. I have no doubt about his guilt and am glad he's gone!!!

 

[truckemup97]

Originally posted by Gutpile Charlie:
Some parents just have to accept the fact that their offspring are worthless, no account

Charlie, I have talked to parents who have written off children as worthless. To me, there is not much that is sadder. However, in almost every case I've seen, the parent has been right.

I also know a mother who would tell her thirty five year old son that he was the brightest, most handsome, hard working man she had ever met. In reality, he's a nice guy, but he's lazy, not too bright, and average looking. I think we all want to believe the best of our children, but sometimes you just have to get real and face facts.

She just needs to have her grief in silence and let the facts speak for themselves.

I think the media is partly to blame for this. It's "good reporting" to show a black or Hispanic mother on TV like this, but have you ever seen a white mother from a middle class neighborhood featured on the news in this way? It all goes back to the divisive nature of some liberals.

 

[guntownuncle]

Originally posted by ingmansinc:
I have to wonder why the mother of a police officer that gets killed in the line of duty isn't on tv screaming about the thug that killed her child.

Excellent observation. I hadn't thought of that before. You usually see a tearful, yet dignified, mother or wife at the funeral. I've never seen one throwing a fit for the camera.


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[guntownuncle]

Originally posted by fiasconva:
While I have no sympathy for the thug I do feel for the mother,regardless of her lifestyle. She had nothing to do with him getting killed and only knows her child is dead. Once the shock wears off she may reconsider some of her statements. Most of our mothers, no matter how old we get will still think us of as their little boys, no matter what we do. That being said, I guess he zigged when he shouda zagged.

I have to disagree somewhat. Often times the mother has a great deal to do with her child getting killed while committing a crime because of the way he was raised. Not always, but often.

 

[kennyb]

many very good,solid points made on this thread by members...often times the public does not see the sometimes lifelong effects a death has on the police officer...in some cases his career is over as he simply cannot handle the stress and depression that is involved with a duty related killing...i have been involved in one and investigated several....what transpires in the ensuing weeks,months,and even years is mind boggling...