The Russians have gone in

[Rudi]

Real, or old test range footage? You decide.

War in Ukraine: Russian helicopter shot down by missile - BBC News

Looks like it almost crashed on the missile crew's position.

 

[Beemerguy53]

The U.S. military must be studying
this war from 360 angles to learn
and determine just what Russia's
capabilities are.

I suspect the Chinese are doing
the same. If southeastern Siberia
has valuable resources, maybe
China would like to make that
area part of its nation.

Supposedly Moscow doesn't have a
real handle on air support/coordination
from stories I've seen. And that 40-mile
long line up of equipment on a single
road is just atrocious.

Apparently a lot of Russian troops were
told or thought they were merely going
on a training exercise. Wonder what
the Russians think of the old adage
"informed troops are good troops?"

Good points. I'll bet that our military folks (and others) are learning a lot about the Russians from this, about their tactics, culture, discipline, morale, effectiveness, etc.

It seems apparent now that the Russians are either afraid of infantry combat, or unsure they can win that way, so they've opted instead to use their artillery and aircraft to attack civilians, destroy infrastructure, and basically terrorize the Ukrainian people into submission. My contempt for Putin and his army increases daily.

We've been seeing images of dead Russian soldiers in the various news coverage of this story. DefSec Austin pointed out in an interview the other day how unprofessional that is, that it's something he, as a career soldier, would never have done. It clearly disgusted him, and his low opinion of Russian military leaders really came across.

 

[GypsmJim]

My mom has trouble watching the video news feeds as having lived through the Liverpool Blitz she has witnessed firsthand the suffering and death inflicted on civilians.

Whenever she is burdened she goes to the back door to look out at her rock garden and pray.

She has been spending a lot more time at the back door lately.

My cousin's husband was Russian. When Hitler invaded Russia, he was a young teenager. He was captured and sent to a labor camp in Germany. When the Americans liberated his camp, he went back to Russia to find that his home and family were no more.

With nothing to return to, he came to the US, where he met my Cousin. All the years they were together he never spoke about anything, yet you could see it in his eyes. I'm so sorry he passed, but I'm glad he isn't here now to see all of this.

God bless your mother.

 

[GypsmJim]

Putin knows he is already responsible for so many atrocities that he is going to burn for eternity in the afterlife.

He knows nothing. Evil persons like him don't believe in the afterlife.

 

[Onomea]

...We've been seeing images of dead Russian soldiers in the various news coverage of this story. DefSec Austin pointed out in an interview the other day how unprofessional that is, that it's something he, as a career soldier, would never have done. It clearly disgusted him, and his low opinion of Russian military leaders really came across.

As I understand it, the Russians have been abandoning their dead. That's probably what Austin meant. The Ukrainians film/photograph the Russian corpses and put the pictures on social media to create a backlash in Russia against the war. (Surely a contributor to the Russians shutting down FaceBook, etc.)

I read/heard on the news that Zelenskyy has said that the Russians are bringing in mobile crematoriums to hide the evidence of their war dead from the Russian people.

There is a lot of psychological warfare taking place.

 

[Rudi]

When little Ivan does not return, his mom will know what happened.

 

[Ματθιας]

It seems, from videos posted online, that Ukrainian folks have been kind to Russian POWs. I wonder how long that will last.

 

[LVSteve]

As I understand it, the Russians have been abandoning their dead. That's probably what Austin meant. The Ukrainians film/photograph the Russian corpses and put the pictures on social media to create a backlash in Russia against the war. (Surely a contributor to the Russians shutting down FaceBook, etc.)

I read/heard on the news that Zelenskyy has said that the Russians are bringing in mobile crematoriums to hide the evidence of their war dead from the Russian people.

There is a lot of psychological warfare taking place.

Different societies have different ideas on dealing with the dead. Some here would be surprised and appalled at the burial practices in much of Europe, and particularly the UK.

As for the Russians bringing crematoriums with them, it removes the spectacle of body bags being loaded/unloaded from trucks and aircraft. As to whether the families get the ashes, you are confusing the Russian apparatus with somebody who gives a rat's.

 

[LCC]

The trickle of ex-vets heading to the Ukraine is becoming a steady stream, including US vets. Get those 10,000 plus Stingers and NLAW's arriving into the hands of the resistance and those crematoriums on wheels will be running 24/7.
If this past 10 days doesn't show Europe why a strong military is the fundamental basis of a strong independent country, nothing will.

 

[LVSteve]

Here's an interesting twist. Russians bailing on Russia.

War in Ukraine: The Russians leaving Russia for Finland - BBC News

 

[bigwheelzip]

Get those 10,000 plus Stingers and NLAW's arriving into the hands of the resistance ....

Surprised to read that Gen Milley, our Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was on the ground in Poland to inspect the operations surrounding the distribution of those 14 planeloads of weapons.

US, Allies rush tons of weapons and ammunition to Ukraine as Russian troops close on Kyiv, New York Times reports | Stars and Stripes



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[Beemerguy53]

Surprised to read that Gen Milley, our Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was on the ground in Poland to inspect the operations surrounding the distribution of those 14 planeloads of weapons.

One can only imagine the level of behind-the-scenes support the West is giving to Ukraine. I hope it's much more substantial than what we see on the news.

This whole situation has been a huge wake-up call for the West. In the past two days, I've spoken separately with two friends in Germany, who both made the same point: The war in Ukraine is right on their doorstep, and they are very concerned that Western Europe could be the next target for Putin. They have every right to be concerned: the westernmost parts of Ukraine are only about 700 miles from Germany.

While nobody wants to engage in open warfare with the Russians, it's in everybody's best interest to help the Ukrainians, and try to bloody Putin's nose. A crushing defeat for Russia would be even better, but that looks increasingly unlikely at this point.

 

[bigwheelzip]

... I've spoken separately with two friends in Germany....

Yes, and Germany has approved a HUGE increase in military spending.
Stranger yet. My Swiss friends are afraid to be on their own, and wishing to join NATO.



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[Rudi]

Yes, and Germany has approved a HUGE increase in military spending.
Stranger yet. My Swiss friends are afraid to be on their own, and wishing to join NATO.



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The Swiss know that the big bear is just down the road.

 

[UncleEd]

I suspect Putin will use
for future aggressions
the same strategic
threat as now:

"The nuclear way."

 

[AJ]

I suspect Putin will use
for future aggressions
the same strategic
threat as now:

"The nuclear way."

That threat is keeping everyone out now. Who wants to call his bluff? Unless he is removed from office from within, he will continue to use that.

 

[biku324]

Unless his bluff is called. He's trying to use it to stop sanctions now as they start to impact Russian life.

 

[AJ]

Unless his bluff is called. He's trying to use it to stop sanctions now as they start to impact Russian life.

Hopefully, all keep their sanctions in place and some more are placed on them. He can be removed from office by his own people/government.

 

[GypsmJim]

As I understand it, the Russians have been abandoning their dead. That's probably what Austin meant. The Ukrainians film/photograph the Russian corpses and put the pictures on social media to create a backlash in Russia against the war. (Surely a contributor to the Russians shutting down FaceBook, etc.)

I read/heard on the news that Zelenskyy has said that the Russians are bringing in mobile crematoriums to hide the evidence of their war dead from the Russian people.

There is a lot of psychological warfare taking place.

We all need to pray for the Russian solders as well. Its not their choice and if they did not follow the orders they would have been killed by their commanders.

My family came from Bavaria and many of my ancestors died in WWII. They hated the government, but they had no choice.

I had a cousin that refused to go to war because his family needed him on the farm. The SS put a bullet in his brain.

 

[Greyman50]

Spoke to my daughter today, she , husband , cousin and her husband are in Belgrade for her birthday. I asked her if any Ukrainians are here yet. Said no, not yet. Just a matter of time.