The Students are not done!

[Rule3]

As mentioned before in another thread, the students are not done.
I firmly believe that they will influence policy making going forward.

Blow it off as some will, but....
When kids are crying, Adults listen.

Things are going to change, Florida has set a precedent.

National school walkout: What you need to know - CNN

 

[vonn]

The pros are using the kids but we need to be alert. We also need to fix school security with things that will actually work,hopefully the conversation will include workable proposals.

 

[TomkinsSP]

Here at our last county assembly the president looked to the right of the isle and found citizens sitting two and three to a seat. To the left of the isle there were a couple folks on the isle, then a sea of empty seats. Public school teachers were sitting on the floor to the left of the leftmost seats.

There is a lot of talk around here on the walkout. It is being organized BY THE TEACHERS and packaged as a memorial to the victims. Without mention of political protest by the teachers. It may be different elsewhere, but it's not an organic movement here. In the long run I think it will have a detrimental effect on the organizers unstated goals.

I would not normally presume to speak for a county, but methinks every person with a soul feels for those who lost thier lives, and those who loved them.

JMO, but shared by many here, mixing that emotion with an appeal to support a partisan political view is about as classless an act as possible.

Not saying it should be ignored. But maybe exposed to the disinfecting properties of sunshine.

 

[Jack Flash]

On the news this am, the story was that a 17 minute walkout is planned for Wednesday. Not that I approve, but that seems like a fairly mild disruption to me.

 

[brjr51]

Perhaps someone should enlighten these "students" that without the 2nd they might not be able to engage in these "walkouts".
Unfortunately, they are just useful pawns for those pushing a bigger agenda. They just don't have the life experience to understand that yet.

 

[Golddollar]

Perhaps someone should enlighten these "students" that without the 2nd they might not be able to engage in these "walkouts".
Unfortunately, they are just useful pawns for those pushing a bigger agenda. They just don't have the life experience to understand that yet.

Well said. Who do they think paid for those buses to go to and from Tallahassee?

 

[Rule3]

As I mentioned in another thread. Florida passed (hastily) a School Safety ACT)

Well the session is over and the budget allocated $400 million to the school safety, how much goers to safety and how much to focus groups, administration, research etc etc.??

One of the requirements was to have a SRO (deputy) at every school.

Well guess what, the Sheriffs do not have the money to hire additional officers to comply with this!! The teachers do not want to become bodyguards and carry guns!

This is what happens with knee jerk actions!

I am sick of it and can not pick up the Newspaper or watch any news anymore. Teenagers chanting and holding signs most are early teens or younger.

 

[SAFireman]

Gee.....aren't a lot of schools on Spring Break? I know ours are out. What great timing they have....

 

[Bill Bates]

There needs to be a pro 2nd Amendment student rally. I say make it on April 19th, the day the shot heard around the world was fired.

The colonist suffered many insults under the British but they didn't fight back until the British government moved on Lexington and Concord to confiscate arms, powder and lead. That was the step to far.

 

[cmort666]

As mentioned before in another thread, the students are not done.
I firmly believe that they will influence policy making going forward.

Blow it off as some will, but....
When kids are crying, Adults listen.

Things are going to change, Florida has set a precedent.

Here's a "precedent":

NO, I REFUSE.

I guess they'd better think of something else.

 

[rwsmith]

The students should also think.....

The students and school personnel should also think of what THEY can do.

Keep an eye on loners or outcasts. Befriend them if possible. Steer people away from the idea that violence is cool or a good solution to anything. Get out more rather than spend time locked up with video games and pounding Death Metal. Put down the cellphones for a while and don't engage in social media squabbles. Take people with you. Form groups and include kids that don't quite fit in. Everybody will be better for it.

There is plenty that parents need to do also. Make your kids feel happy instead of being an appendage. Provide opportunity to keep them busy. Get them outdoors.

 

[jimbo728]

Used to be 5 minutes of fame, now it`s 17.
We should be praying for the families of the victims and finally protect our schools, churches and everywhere people gather. Not punish the law abiding public with law that will make us less safe.
It is terrible that anti gun forces manipulate our kids in their drive to eradicate the Second Amendment.
Jim

 

[WCCPHD]

The irony of the anti's. They don't trust 18, 19 or 20 year olds (anyone actually) to be mature enough to buy/possess guns; however, they believe (or say they believe) that we have to listen to these same aged and younger people and let them set policy for everyone.

Sounds like talking out both sides of their mouths.

This is why they want something done NOW, while emotions are running high and before people regain their reason and realize they are simply using a tragedy to further their agenda of ultimate disarmament of those they hold in utter contempt.

 

[Golddollar]

This is why they want something done NOW, while emotions are running high and before people regain their reason and realize they are simply using a tragedy to further their agenda of ultimate disarmament of those they hold in utter contempt.

If this isn't a textbook case of Rahm Emmanuel's advice "Don't let a good crisis go to waste" I don't know what is.

 

[kwselke]

I suggest the students do a walk out of Spring Break as a protest. Skipping school to protest does not impress me.

 

[tarsam]

Bloomberg's money was just waiting for a tragedy, now the floodgates are open. Never mind fixing the numerous failures in the safety net that could have prevented this from happening.

 

[500SNW]

I still maintain that not much will come from this latest push. Think back to Sandy Hook. That was a much more fertile environment for gun control measures to pass...when we had an overtly anti-gun White House and a more evenly balanced Congress and Supreme Court. In the present, the balance is clearly tipped in gun owners favor...for a while at least. Again, IMHO...and I stress IMHO...there will be no significant legislation inspired by the Parkland shooting. What you are seeing now is a lot of smoke blowing by both sides. When the smoke clears, and it will because people have such short attention spans and memories these days, we'll still have the same old gun laws as before. And trust me... once the kids get out of school in May/June for Summer break...they sure as Hell won't be parading around the pavement holding picket signs and chanting anti-NRA slogans.

 

[Rule3]

I still maintain that not much will come from this latest push. Think back to Sandy Hook. That was a much more fertile environment for gun control measures to pass...when we had an overtly anti-gun White House and a more evenly balanced Congress and Supreme Court. In the present, the balance is clearly tipped in gun owners favor...for a while at least. Again, IMHO...and I stress IMHO...there will be no significant legislation inspired by the Parkland shooting. What you are seeing now is a lot of smoke blowing by both sides. When the smoke clears, and it will because people have such short attention spans and memories these days, we'll still have the same old gun laws as before. And trust me... once the kids get out of school in May/June for Summer break...they sure as Hell won't be parading around the pavement holding picket signs and chanting anti-NRA slogans.

Well actually, Florida just took the first bite of the elephant!
Now 21 and 3 day wait for a long gun, bump stocks are no more. Maybe that is not "significant" but the Kids pushed hard enough to make it happen.

It has just begun.

As others have said, when this does nothing, then they will want more.

This safety act has no bearing on what actually happened and will do nothing in the future.

Much like the War on Drugs or Drunk driving.

 

[500SNW]

Well actually, Florida just took the first bite of the elephant! Now 21 and 3 day wait for a long gun, bump stocks are no more.

Keep in mind that I'm speaking from a 50 state perspective. Florida's a single state. Why is what Florida did any more threatening to the entire nations gun owners than what Connecticut recently did...or Maryland...or what CA and NY seem to do on a regular basis? Not to get off on a long discussion, but AFAIK the Florida thing is not written in stone and there will be the legal challenges by both organizations and individuals.

 

[RGVshooter]

The high school in my hometown had a walkout last week and yesterday had issued a detention to each & every student that skipped class. You should see the big debate on the towns facebook group page. It's split 50/50 for those who support the kids and those who applaud the school for giving out detentions. I left the group because I got sick of adults bickering on social media instead of spending quality time with their children. I told them that if they want to make any real positive change to do just that. Spend time with their kids. But I guess it fell on deaf ears.