the success of Chicago gun control
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ask gang members nicely to leave the kids alone... or arm the fathers of these kids.
Oh wait none of these shootings are possible. Guns are not legal to carry so that means no one has them. Lets just close our eyes this bad dream will be over soon
Oh wait none of these shootings are possible. Guns are not legal to carry so that means no one has them. Lets just close our eyes this bad dream will be over soon
Dear Mr Gangbanger,
Could you find it in your heart to leave the kiddies alone................please
Sincerely,
Helpless in Chicago
Could you find it in your heart to leave the kiddies alone................please
Sincerely,
Helpless in Chicago
IndianaDave
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Chicago is beyond redemption. An endemic criminal class, predatory gang attacks the media covers up, corrupt, stupid, and hypocritical politicians, ad infinitum. Only a fool would walk downtown after dark unarmed.
Dear Mr Gangbanger,
Could you find it in your heart to leave the kiddies alone................please
Sincerely,
Helpless in Chicago
Don't you mean "Clueless in Chicago"?
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Well, from what I know about Chicago gun laws, the only people who can legally carry are cops right?
So only criminals and cops carry?
You carrying makes you a criminal? without going into a huge 2nd ammendment debate, the law is what it is
McBear
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I have to be in Chicago on business about once every quarter. I never carry and I have never once felt in trouble. I stay at the Knickerbocker Hotel and walk everywhere, as late as two or three, going to-from Rush Street or Unos on Ohio or Ginos on Superior or down at the House of Blues on the river. I have been going there for 35 years with no issues, sometimes going in groups and sometimes by myself. I seldom take a taxi unless I am with someone in heels.
BCDWYO
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I was unfortunate enough to be in Chicago for the week of the 4th...don't get me started on the heat and the crowds! We stayed in the Hyde Park area. My daughter needed some stuff from the local CVS pharmacy and the lady at the hotel suggested we walk. NO WAY was I walking around there at night. I'm so accustomed to carrying all the time here in AZ that I never felt very safe the whole time I was there. I never felt in trouble either McBear but that didn't mean I felt safe or in control.
Chicago has two sides to it. Side #1 is its ambience. For those that have cash, they can live downtown or in nice areas of the city. Side #2 is the rest of the city. Many people are good but the bad ones are bad, very bad. I am no sociologist, but it is time for the politicians to quit being corrupt to the point that they may have actually termed the word (originated it) in Websters disctionary.
Illinois needs to be a Right To Carry state. When grandma can go to the currency exchange or bank where she can cash her social security check, fully knowing that if some bangers want to party, they too may receive some extra lead in the process, shootings will slow down a lot.
It starts with grandma, then it continues on until every scum of the earth criminal fears that maybe, just maybe, the cab driver you want to rob, the mother pushing her stroller in Lincoln Park, the person shopping, may blow you away, if you chose to rob them.
Dodge City? No. A kinder, gentler city.
TAKJR
Illinois needs to be a Right To Carry state. When grandma can go to the currency exchange or bank where she can cash her social security check, fully knowing that if some bangers want to party, they too may receive some extra lead in the process, shootings will slow down a lot.
It starts with grandma, then it continues on until every scum of the earth criminal fears that maybe, just maybe, the cab driver you want to rob, the mother pushing her stroller in Lincoln Park, the person shopping, may blow you away, if you chose to rob them.
Dodge City? No. A kinder, gentler city.
TAKJR
The company I used to work for was HQ'ed in Chicago (actually Schaumburg and Prospect Heights, IL), so I got to (had to) go there often. I never felt threatened. I also knew which areas to avoid. Those "places to avoid" are not places that people just stroll around, or tourists would accidentally venture to (unless they were going to a white sox game).
The area in and around downtown Chicago is pretty safe from my experiences, but got bad quick as you exited downtown or crossed various rivers or canals which seemed to be natural barriers. At least until you go out to the suburbs which were nice for the most part. The last time I Was there was December 2008, I doubt it has changed much in 4 years. Anyone with half a brain would quickly look at their surroundings, realize where they were, and turn around.
At any rate, I would not be risking my freedom and my future ability to own and shoot firearms to risk carrying in such a anti-gun state.
McBear
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Grandma needs to direct deposit her SS Check and use a debit card.
And most city cabs also have card swipers. Maybe the solution starts with removing ready cash from the environment for some people.
As you pointed out there is GOOD Chicago and BAD Chicago. Seldom do the two mix from my understanding. So, you want carry for the GOOD Chicago which has less danger and less need and you want carry for BAD Chicago which, by your definition doesn't sound like it really needs more tools to be BAD.
There used to be an opportunity for cities and states to modify their laws to address the good and the bad. I think that changed.
What? You're kidding me, right? If not, that's baloney. Grandma isn't doing a darned thing wrong and she shouldn't have to bend over backwards to benefit the criminal class. I guess I am just getting too old if this kind of logic is what most folks consider appropriate these days.
It's all grandma's fault. 
Bedrockk
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McBear
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Now you guys are just trying to confuse me [don't worry, it won't work]. First you say that folks should take every precaution, from carrying at least one gun to maybe two or three [I believe the phrase was "one is none, two is one, three is two"] yet, when a suggestion for another of those "every precautions"...watching your money, direct deposit, not presenting a target you say it's baloney that grandma shouldn't have to bend over backwards [and frankly, good on her if she is still that flexible as a grandma].What? You're kidding me, right? If not, that's baloney. Grandma isn't doing a darned thing wrong and she shouldn't have to bend over backwards to benefit the criminal class. I guess I am just getting too old if this kind of logic is what most folks consider appropriate these days.
But directly to your observation...yes, if grandma is going to a bodega in a bad neighborhood to CASH her social security check about the same time every month she is certainly doing something wrong. Even the stupidest criminal has some sense of pattern recognition.
I re-read the whole thread, didn't see anything like this posted, and certainly not by the poster you responded to. Now I'm the one who's confused.
I re-read the whole thread, didn't see anything like this posted, and certainly not by the poster you responded to. Now I'm the one who's confused.
McB understands things that are beyond the comprehension of lesser mortals.
McBear, we are glad we didn't confuse you, and yes, Grandma should, for her own good, avoid the surly places - IF she can (sometimes Grandma may not be well to do and just plain can't). But the point is, Grandma should be reasonably safe anywhere that there is rule of law, and if she is not, it is not her business to make special arrangements to accommodate the criminal class. It should be the business of those in authority to get after those who are endangering Grandma. Remember - these poor, misunderstood criminals have been known to kill Grandma just because she didn't have any money they could steal, too. It's their way of getting even with Grandma for denying them their rights to her money. 
I hope this helps with any confusion about who might be the bad people here - Grandma, or the thugs that are slowly taking over our big cities because the people who run those big cities illegally oppress the decent, law-abiding citizens who have to live there for one reason or another.
I hope this helps with any confusion about who might be the bad people here - Grandma, or the thugs that are slowly taking over our big cities because the people who run those big cities illegally oppress the decent, law-abiding citizens who have to live there for one reason or another.
Is it right or correct that good people are saddled with laws that endanger them? When criminals could care less about such laws.
It is wrong to think that the same ineffective plan will yield different results! How's that "gun-free zone" working out, Chicago stealercrats?
TAKJR, has it right. There are areas that are great and neighborhoods that are...well...NOT.
McBear stayed on Chicago's "gold coast." This area is the complete opposite of some the the violent west side & south side neighborhoods controlled by gangs. It is not even on the same planet, McB.
It is wrong to think that the same ineffective plan will yield different results! How's that "gun-free zone" working out, Chicago stealercrats?
TAKJR, has it right. There are areas that are great and neighborhoods that are...well...NOT.
McBear stayed on Chicago's "gold coast." This area is the complete opposite of some the the violent west side & south side neighborhoods controlled by gangs. It is not even on the same planet, McB.
I'm sure there's plenty of crime around the Knickerbocker Hotel
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