The Surveillance Society is full on in Spain

[LVSteve]

I am in Europe, specifically the Uk, now. Wife and I have been here for over a week so far and, except for immigration upon our arrival , have not had to or been required to show our passports anywhere. We were in Greece and Italy earlier this year and the same was true there. We show our driver's license when we rent a car, naturally and occasionally are asked for ID when using a CC. A driver license works for those. I have no issue with any of this ……their country, their rules. Spain is, however, something else to which I can not comment. However, we talk about surveillance on this forum often enough that I'm surprised that you all are surprised. Surveillance is everywhere, it's the modern world.

Just read any crime report from the UK and listen to the hand wringing when they say, "But the area is not covered by CCTV", like we are supposed to accept that everywhere should be. As an ex-pat, I now firmly believe that the "great" for Great Britain should only apply as a geographical descriptor.

 

[Warren Sear]

And the women are insane there.

...so you're saying they're the same there as everywhere else?

 

[Greyman50]

The Only way to travel without being " located" is in a RV using Cash to pay for Everything and No cell phone unless its an old flip one and you go to a mall or similar and make calls.

 

[djohns6]

The Only way to travel without being " located" is in a RV using Cash to pay for Everything and No cell phone unless its an old flip one and you go to a mall or similar and make calls.

Until you pass an LPR camera .

 

[pmanton]

I spent 3 years in Spain 64-67 near Sevilla. I loved it. It sounds like things have changed.

 

[moosedog]

The rain, in Spain, falls mainly on ...................................
your head.

Spain has aways veered to the left in the last 100 years.

 

[fordson]

Just read any crime report from the UK and listen to the hand wringing when they say, "But the area is not covered by CCTV", like we are supposed to accept that everywhere should be. As an ex-pat, I now firmly believe that the "great" for Great Britain should only apply as a geographical descriptor.

My wife loves British police "crime" shows: Vera, Shetland, Unforgotten, etc. I often wonder how real is their depiction of modern British policing and their dependence on CCTV. If true, they wouldn't solve a crime if system goes down.

 

[LVSteve]

My wife loves British police "crime" shows: Vera, Shetland, Unforgotten, etc. I often wonder how real is their depiction of modern British policing and their dependence on CCTV. If true, they wouldn't solve a crime if system goes down.

My full, unbiased opinion on the state of day-to-day policing in the UK is not suitable for this forum. Their anti-terrorist and organized crime intelligence groups are first class, and while these things are important, they are not on the radar of 99.99% of crime victims. The day I see a cellphone video of a CCTV camera coming down off its pole and slapping cuffs on a mugger, I'll be a convert to their reliance on the damned things. Until then, there is no policing in most of Britain, just a uniformed clean up squad.

 

[Old 44 Guy]

I was born in Calif. I had no choice, my mother carried me here. As far as travel goes I haven't seen all of California yet and probably never will. Been all over the west mostly hunting and fishing. Great country but not home.

 

[Greyman50]

Until you pass an LPR camera .

Use a " camera proof" clear plate cover, forgot to add that.

 

[delcrossv]

Purportedly to track criminals. Hopefully they were wise enough to pass a law that bans criminals from giving false information at checkin.

That's the excuse they always give.