The things you find out after someone dies...

Family often assumes the responsibility for dealing with things like you are dealing with. The reality is you have neither the responsibility, nor the authority, to do so.

I would caution against doing anything. Eventually heirs could come back and claim you looted the house. You're only taking out the trash, but are you documenting that? Without a will you probably need to file for probate and wait on the court to appoint an executor/trustee.

This is not legal advice. I am not a lawyer. But you should ask one what to do.
 
My parents made a list of house stuff and told my brother and me to divvy it up. Neither of us wanted much of it. It’ll get disposed of in an estate sale after mom passes on. Their financial assets are in a trust, so we’ll get to divvy that up as we see fit.

Make sure your heirs have access to any pertinent accounts, like usernames and passwords, and power of attorney.
 
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No death involved, but back in 1985 when I bought our summer camp it was quite the experience. Camp came with a 24x24 garage. The things I found in there when I cleaned it out. Buying property up here on the lake normal means it comes with most everything you need to live there.

The garage was so loaded that there was only room for my ATV to go in. I had a PU with a 8' box and made many trips to the dumpl. Back then they took anything you delivered there.:D

Also found all sorts of axes, rakes, shovels, other tools and a lot of other good stuff, some antiques and furniture that I sold. Had a union brother that was a PT dealer and he either bought from me or told me what it was worth to sell it.

I realized about $3,000 in cleaning out just the garage. I saved the electrical items, wire, outlet boxes, enough to to do any wring repairs the camp needed with the exception of a entrance panel..

No sort of building inspectors back then and the wiring was totally illegal and unsafe. (Its really a wonder the place never burned down) I upgraded from a 60 Amp fuse systen to a modern breaker 100 Amp and my work passed inspection. Got all done just before the start of the next summer and felt much better bringing my family up here.
 
Family often assumes the responsibility for dealing with things like you are dealing with. The reality is you have neither the responsibility, nor the authority, to do so.

I would caution against doing anything. Eventually heirs could come back and claim you looted the house. You're only taking out the trash, but are you documenting that? Without a will you probably need to file for probate and wait on the court to appoint an executor/trustee.

This is not legal advice. I am not a lawyer. But you should ask one what to do.

Yep......And all that cost big $$$......
 
What I have learned from my siblings after my parents and my in-laws passed, is that money is always thicker than blood...
Since I was left out of the will, the in fighting is hilarious.

I know I'll inherit nothing because I come from poor folks. But I'm making sure my surviving daughter and two grandkids get some cash when we both croak.
 
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Family often assumes the responsibility for dealing with things like you are dealing with. The reality is you have neither the responsibility, nor the authority, to do so.

I would caution against doing anything. Eventually heirs could come back and claim you looted the house. You're only taking out the trash, but are you documenting that? Without a will you probably need to file for probate and wait on the court to appoint an executor/trustee.

This is not legal advice. I am not a lawyer. But you should ask one what to do.

I hear you about the legal advice, but it's kind of late for stuff leaving the house.

I have a cousin who was with my uncle when he passed and my uncle told him, verbally, everything was his and do what he wants with it. Apparently, my uncle was advised to make a will in his final days and he refused.

When things started to get expensive, like what to do with the body he, called my aunt and told her she could deal with the nonsense and went back to CA. He took stuff. The other daughter who showed up with perfect timing probably took stuff.

When I got to look in the house, there were garbage bags filled with stuff. My aunt said those weren't there when she was at the house a few weeks before. So who knows what's taken.

From what I understand, in NM it goes like this, spouse, kids, then siblings. He had no spouse, and the kids, out of wedlock, aren't entitled to anything because they don't share his last name. My aunt is his last remaining sibling.

I haven't said anything to my aunt about how to deal with anything except that she needs to talk to an attorney. But she insists that she'd doing it her way. She had to deal with my other aunts assets when she died so she knows what she's doing. I'm not going to argue with her and I'm not getting involved in the legal stuff. She's one of these women where you can't tell them anything - if you know what I mean. I'm just taking her places around the city when I have the tine.

Besides that she's already has plans for everything. She has the the Daffy Duck, "Mine, Mine, Mine, allll Mine!!!" syndrome I'm like "whatever". She already has taken stuff back and she wants all the stuff back that was taken... Good luck with that! She already has plans for the two vehicles... Yeah, "mine, mine"....

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There's only one thing I want from him, my Dad's military insignia. When my dad was discharged from the Army after Korea, he left his uniform at the house they were living at while he went to work for AT&SF Railroad. My dad said that when he went back to get his stuff parts of his uniform were gone. My dad and other brothers knew who took the stuff but didn't have proof.

When my dad died, after the funeral, my uncle came to me and said that he had a half dollar sized scorpion emblem and, the name escapes me, "neckerchief" that is in place if the tie on dress uniforms - I can't think of the proper name. Anyway, he asked me if my dad had something of his and that he was willing to make a trade if I found it... That's all I want.

Anyway, this is going to get highly entertaining especially when it comes to disposing of the house and vehicles.
 
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Im so glad my Dads things are in order. His passing will be nothing compared to what I just read. I feel for those of you who had to deal with that situations

Reading these stories has made me think more about trying to shake down my house so there is lot less stuff for my estate to deal with. I guess the problem becomes where to start? I'm watching my cousins deal with the estates of my aunt and uncle who died recently. I think I will just have to bite the bullet and toss the old VHS tapes that thrift stores won't take anymore. I currently watching the unwrapped DVDs I've collected and will probably take them to the rescues mission after watching them once. Any suggestions for how to sit down and really start getting stuff out the door?
 
I had an elderly couple that were dear friends, and they were ex-ranchers. They saved everything. When a relative died they got a share of the booty. They had sheds full of fishing poles, welders, tools, boats, forges, anvils and the like. He died first and I would visit his 83-year-old widow several times a week and have coffee and play a few hands of rummy. Caught her trying to clean out sheds so her 2 kids did not have to deal with acres of stuff. I knew them very well and knew their financial situation. I adviser her that I knew she was going to leave each child 2 houses that were paid off, 2 paid off modern vehicle, and at least a half million dollars in the bank. I said for that kind of payday they should clean out the sheds. She thought about it for about a minute and put everything back in the shed and we had coffee and played cards.
 
Reading these stories has made me think more about trying to shake down my house so there is lot less stuff for my estate to deal with. I guess the problem becomes where to start? I'm watching my cousins deal with the estates of my aunt and uncle who died recently. I think I will just have to bite the bullet and toss the old VHS tapes that thrift stores won't take anymore. I currently watching the unwrapped DVDs I've collected and will probably take them to the rescues mission after watching them once. Any suggestions for how to sit down and really start getting stuff out the door?

The first thing, take an inventory of what you have, room by room.
You'll probably find a lot of stuff you forgot about. Then go from there.
 
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The first thing, take an inventory of what you have, room by room.
You'll probably find a lot of stuff you forgot about. Then go from there.

Thanks. A lot of my stuff is out in the open but there are some boxes I can go through. I think in some regards a 1930s mindset about saving everything came down to me.
 
Reading these stories has made me think more about trying to shake down my house so there is lot less stuff for my estate to deal with. I guess the problem becomes where to start? I'm watching my cousins deal with the estates of my aunt and uncle who died recently. I think I will just have to bite the bullet and toss the old VHS tapes that thrift stores won't take anymore. I currently watching the unwrapped DVDs I've collected and will probably take them to the rescues mission after watching them once. Any suggestions for how to sit down and really start getting stuff out the door?

I have a different way of dealing with things. Start in one room, preferably the smallest one in the house. Pick something up. Decide which pile it goes to, “KEEP”, “SELL”, “TOSS”, or “GIVE AWAY”. It is not easy and you really need to be in the right frame of mind and you need to be honest with yourself. If you have not used it in years, get rid of it.

Good luck!

Kevin
 
Now you've got e going. I'm taking all the books off the bookshelf...I probably have 5 or 6 hundred bucks packed away as page markers. I no longer buy book. I read 'em on amazon Kindles

I can remember watching my dad stash money between books as I mentioned earlier. When I got to Nam I was stationed on an LCU which had a crew of nine or ten, we had bunks and lockers. For some reason when I got paid I took a couple hundred in brand new MPC notes and stuck them in a bible I picked up along the way. If your not famililar with MPC, its what the military paid us while in an area like Vietnam instead of cash to avoid greenbacks going to the black market and eventually ending up in the hands of the "enemy". About every six months they would have a change of MPC which meant all the old bills had to be returned in exchange for a new printing, this kept an amount of control over the MPC notes being used on the black market as well and much easier to control. There was always a scramble on the part of the Vietnamese to exhange their ill gotten or in some cases legally obtained MPC. You were only allowed to exchange something like two paychecks worth and Vietnamese would often throw bags of the stuff over the wire to get it exhanged, loosing out big time. There was an exchange called and I was working on the boat, we were running up and down the coast and out to an island, it came down to crunch time and for the life of me I couldn't remember where I stashed the $200...probably a bit high at the time it seemed like a good idea or whatever, I missed the deadline...fast forward six months and I am getting ready to ship out back to the states, I'm going through my gear and run across this slightly mildewed bible and absently thumbed through it and out drift these two fresh as the day they were printed MPC notes...lesson learned, I think I still have them as a reminder and it makes a great story.
 
My wife's brother died in prison--long story--and had several hundred thousand in cash in a safety deposit box, on which my wife had a power of attorney to access it. Somewhere between the relatively short time when they opened the account and when he tried to kill his mother and other brother and then died in prison, all the money vanished. No clue as where the money went, but he didn't have any on him when arrested. As this post might lead you to think, yes, he was nuttier than a fruitcake.
 
My in-laws lived in the same house for 40 years. They finally decided to sell their house and be full time RVers. They had an auction and got pennies on the dollar for their stuff. They never really got to be RVers due to health issues and they live in our town now. Father-in-law stated a couple of days ago that thre really won’t be anything for an inheritance for his children to fight over. THAT is the best inheritance ever! We dreaded the thought of sorting through and disposing of 40 years of STUFF at their eventual demise.
 
I have a different way of dealing with things. Start in one room, preferably the smallest one in the house. Pick something up. Decide which pile it goes to, “KEEP”, “SELL”, “TOSS”, or “GIVE AWAY”. It is not easy and you really need to be in the right frame of mind and you need to be honest with yourself. If you have not used it in years, get rid of it.

Good luck!

Kevin
My wife isn't a hoarder, but has a hard time getting rid of stuff. She also has a hard time getting around. My youngest daughter, although has a very good job, likes to help people clean out their homes as a side gig. My wife has paid her to clear out a couple of rooms that had too much stuff. My daughter uses your method. The result was great!
 
I've had some, not so great, experiences with greedy relatives upon a death. For the executor of an estate, it is a very good idea to change locks and replace with very good ones as "vultures" will break in to a home of relatives and steal things that they feel entitled to. As for the dead, I pretty much like to go by the old idea of "Don't speak badly about the dead!" It doesn't do anybody any good. I also feel like the beneficiaries of a will should be the ones to go through a decedent's property. I don't feel like the burden is upon the decedent to sort through everything to take off the strain of dealing with it. Oh yea, get a will!
 
My dad passed back in '08. Like a lot of people in his generation, he got caught up with buying crap from the Linkletter catalog and the like, though my constant chiding and the fact he lived in a condo tamped that down quite a bit. I'm an only child, and he did a good job setting everything up so I'd have access to accounts.

I learned from going through his docs that he'd been unsuccessfully sued back in the 80s by an employee (he and a friend subcontracted to Boeing on the side). He had a lot of Boeing patents with his name on them and some cutout articles from Seattle newspapers as he was part of a number of nonprofits that occasionally made the news. Some 1950s mining stock certificates that turned out to be worthless. But no earthshattering stuff. No half siblings out there or napkin map to the lost city of El Dorado.

My wife's side of the family has lots of suburban and rural hoarder types. When her uncle passed a few years back, he left quite a pile of goods stacked up. He came from a poor farm family but made good $ and was the type to buy decent stuff from quality manufacturers and, once it broke, just bought another one. So lots of "repairman's specials" like chainsaws, lawnmowers, etc. The John Deere riding mower in my garage is from that, as is my 34 ton hydraulic splitter. His house is still not cleared out of stuff after 2+ years, and why his kids haven't done so and sold it is beyond me as a nice house on 15 acres in the outer suburbs of Seattle could be a million dollar sale in this day and age.
 
The most common thing to find after the death of a friend or loved one is just how greedy and unscrupulous people can be. I've seen otherwise good people commit criminal acts because they think that they should have all that was left behind. :mad:
If you're not the Executor of the estate or otherwise responsible for the deceased's property, I strongly suggest you walk away and don't look back.
 
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