The Ultimate Model 27 Thread!

After many years of looking, I am finally able to join the M27 club. I just found this late 27-2 lurking on the bottom shelf of the used gun case. Looks to have had maybe a single cylinder of shells through it since new. Easily a 99% gun. I'm thrilled to have it.

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I suppose I get to participate too.

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1975 27-2 5" wearing Kuracs exhibition grade feather crotch royal walnut cokes.

I watched this and other threads over the years, all the while trying to find one of my own and finally it is here.

I did buy a 627-0 in 89 when they were new. In many ways they are the SS version of these, quite unlike the newer 627's.

In any event, both the 627 and this 27 are lasers with hot home loaded cast and they both favor the Lyman 358429 & 358160 over large amounts of W296.
 
Found a NIB M27-2 8 3/8"

The frame has a strange hue to it. Only the frame. Maybe turning plum? Hard to photograph.

Wearing Kurac's Osage Orange stocks....



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Hello Leatherhead23
The frame color turning Plum may Indicate that it has been reblued. I was told by Horace Ford that these hardened frames are Very hard to pentrate with Bluing salt's due to the High Nickel content in the steel and he said that is why we see bluing that appear's to be Plum in color as it ages in time the Plum color shows up more. I bought a Model 27-2 that had a 4" barrel that was blued. When it showed up the frame was very shinny and Black in color but the barrel looked to have the bluing finish of a model 28 it was Not as shinny Nor black in color as the frame was. I returned it under the Three day inspection as it showed up badly and the bluing finishes did not match at all. I surmised that it was an Older frame that S&W Pulled from their Inventory and Put a Later made and blued barrel on and that is why the Bluing color and level of shine differed. Regards, Hammerdown
 
Hello Leatherhead23
The frame color turning Plum may Indicate that it has been reblued. I was told by Horace Ford that these hardened frames are Very hard to pentrate with Bluing salt's due to the High Nickel content in the steel and he said that is why we see bluing that appear's to be Plum in color as it ages in time the Plum color shows up more. I bought a Model 27-2 that had a 4" barrel that was blued. When it showed up the frame was very shinny and Black in color but the barrel looked to have the bluing finish of a model 28 it was Not as shinny Nor black in color as the frame was. I returned it under the Three day inspection as it showed up badly and the bluing finishes did not match at all. I surmised that it was an Older frame that S&W Pulled from their Inventory and Put a Later made and blued barrel on and that is why the Bluing color and level of shine differed. Regards, Hammerdown

What evidence says its been reblued? You're saying it turns plum over time....not sure what evidence shows just the frame has been reblued.

Seeing lots of other threads showing many other mismatched colors with parts turning plum.

Thanks for your info!
 
What evidence says its been reblued? You're saying it turns plum over time....not sure what evidence shows just the frame has been reblued.

Seeing lots of other threads showing many other mismatched colors with parts turning plum.

Thanks for your info!

Hello Leatherhead23
I have been told by the Owner of Ford's custom gun refinishing in Florida who is Horace Ford that the reason many re-blued gun's turn Plum in color os due to the Bluing salt's used in the re-bluing process were either weak or the gun was not left in the bluing Tank Long enough for the Bluing salt's to penetrate the hardned frame's or cylinder's of guns that had a Higher Nickel content in their carbon steel frames. I have seen some with Cylinder's that turned Plum in color and other's that the frame turned Plum as to what your's appears to be. Horace Ford also told me that bluing changes over time as it is a rust process so that is whay many gun's change long after they have been refinished where Bluing salt's were used. It could also be when the Bluing process was changed at S&W from the Original carbonna process to what they use now as Leir-Sigler the British company that owned S&W back in the mid 1980's time span dropped the Original Carbonna bluing process. I am not sure what they switched to but I assume it was done to save time and money. I did Not mean any disrespect in saying that your gun's frame may have been re-blued, as it may have been done with a different process of Bluing than the barrel was done with. Regards, Hammerdown
 
Hello Leatherhead23
I have been told by the Owner of Ford's custom gun refinishing in Florida who is Horace Ford that the reason many re-blued gun's turn Plum in color os due to the Bluing salt's used in the re-bluing process were either weak or the gun was not left in the bluing Tank Long enough for the Bluing salt's to penetrate the hardned frame's or cylinder's of guns that had a Higher Nickel content in their carbon steel frames. I have seen some with Cylinder's that turned Plum in color and other's that the frame turned Plum as to what your's appears to be. Horace Ford also told me that bluing changes over time as it is a rust process so that is whay many gun's change long after they have been refinished where Bluing salt's were used. It could also be when the Bluing process was changed at S&W from the Original carbonna process to what they use now as Leir-Sigler the British company that owned S&W back in the mid 1980's time span dropped the Original Carbonna bluing process. I am not sure what they switched to but I assume it was done to save time and money. I did Not mean any disrespect in saying that your gun's frame may have been re-blued, as it may have been done with a different process of Bluing than the barrel was done with. Regards, Hammerdown

Here is a thread on this very gun that has been discussed before....Ive updated it and put my new pics in it for you and others to give opinions and info on.

Thank you sir!

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1961-1980/318646-27-2-bluing-issues.html
 
Here is a thread on this very gun that has been discussed before....Ive updated it and put my new pics in it for you and others to give opinions and info on.

Thank you sir!

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1961-1980/318646-27-2-bluing-issues.html


Hello Leatherhead23
I looked at the Picture's in the link that you provided and Noticed something in the last Picture that shows a close up of the Gun's Barrel and frame area. I saw where the top strap checking does not come all the way out to Meet the barrel flush just behind the forcing cone breech area of the gun's Top strap area. I am Not picking your Gun apart so Please don't take it as that, but the Model 27's That I Have all have that area meeting the barrel and top strap area flush where as your's appear's to have a small Noticeable dished out area that I have never seen on another Model 27Here is a Pre-27 that I have that show's how the barrel meet's the top strap flush.. Regards, Hammerdown

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27-2, 5"

27-2, 5". Going for the Gen Patton look!

The holster is from El Paso saddlery, their model #2 Thumbreak police duty style with optional border stamping.
 

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Hello
General George S. Patton had a 3-1/2' barrel length Registered Magnum with Ivory handles. He Nick named it his Killing machine. ;)


I think he just meant the ivory grips. Wish he'd told us about the holster. It looks like the old Safariland Model 29, but seems to be made by another firm.

Yes, I realize that Patton's holsters were the Border Patrol style from Myres.
 
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edited original with holster info, they also have a Patton model(web site says they made the patton original for him), but I like this style better, and it is considerable cheaper.
 

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