The Ultimate One Way Ticket
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There would be a long waiting list to get a "ticket." Personally, I don't think that we should be considering interstellar travel until we have learned to take care of our home planet. If there was intellgent life at the destination, they would tell us to go back to where we came from. 500 years just shot to hell. 
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No thanks. I like to go out for a drive.
Grayfox
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I've always believed that sooner or later for whatever reason the survival of the human race will require that we leave Earth and spread out among the stars. It may not happen for centuries yet, but it will happen.
This is why I support space exploration now. Because when the time comes, it sure would be helpful to have someplace to go and the means to get there.
This is why I support space exploration now. Because when the time comes, it sure would be helpful to have someplace to go and the means to get there.
My first ancestor to come to the USA (before it was the USA) was put on a ship to America at the age of 9 (alone) by his Parents in 1634. He was an indentured servant and worked until the age of 21. Lived 11 years after his indenture ended and had one male child. Died at 32. The child lived to 70 and had 12 children. This thread reminded me of that event 391 years ago. The head of the expedition was Cecil Calvert, Lord Baltimore. They were Catholics fleeing the persecution of the rulers of England.
So, you would have people who have never lived on a planet, arriving at a strange planet that they have very little knowledge of, and attempt to colonize it. Interesting concept for a novel, or a movie, but not the type of exploration I personally would want to be involved in. Not to mention 1000 people living in close quarters for 250 years. I see factions springing up, power struggles and maybe even war. Imagine war on a ship in space. Imagine what form of government, or lack thereof, would emerge on the other end. Because it's still human beings, after all, and I don't think the mother of all car trips is going to make us better.
Maybe, assuming there is a habitable planet spinning around the star, the inhabitants of said planet would have had a previous experience similar to that of the natives of Hawaii who were almost exterminated by the Pneumonia the visitors exposed them to, They decided to not let them land.
If'n they carry 20 tons per year into space to construct this 36 mile long behemoth it would take at least 5,000 years to finish. There's over a thousand that we could shoot out of a really big cannon in the meantime. Joe
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In August of last year, I started a thread on this very subject. I stand by what I wrote in that thread.
Man will go back to the moon in my lifetime. But we are years away from trips to Mars. We just aren't there yet nor will be for a long time to come. So to imagine a monstrous vessel carrying thousands of humans to the nearest star which is generations away even at lightspeed is just that...imagination.
Now let's assume for instance that we can go to the nearest star (Alpha Centauri) which is 4.5 ly away. What happens if we find the planet cannot support human life on arrival? Turning around and coming back is out of the question so that monstrous vessel just became a monstrous tomb.
Newborns do not do marathons out of the crib....and we are no different in this kind of scenario. We are still in the crib. Although I still hope we see an active moonbase in my lifetime,.
Man will go back to the moon in my lifetime. But we are years away from trips to Mars. We just aren't there yet nor will be for a long time to come. So to imagine a monstrous vessel carrying thousands of humans to the nearest star which is generations away even at lightspeed is just that...imagination.
Now let's assume for instance that we can go to the nearest star (Alpha Centauri) which is 4.5 ly away. What happens if we find the planet cannot support human life on arrival? Turning around and coming back is out of the question so that monstrous vessel just became a monstrous tomb.
Newborns do not do marathons out of the crib....and we are no different in this kind of scenario. We are still in the crib. Although I still hope we see an active moonbase in my lifetime,.
Sounds like my mother's family, they were Quakers and came over with William Penn. Something Neal Degrass Tyson said the other day was that back in Medieval days a man would probably live to be 30, two hundred years later maybe to 35, two hundred years after that up into his 70's, why is that??? Science
Unfortunately, we need to spend money on space operations for military/national defense purposes if nothing else. Same for AI, even though it will be the downfall of mankind eventually.There would be a long waiting list to get a "ticket." Personally, I don't think that we should be considering interstellar travel until we have learned to take care of our home planet. If there was intellgent life at the destination, they would tell us to go back to where we came from. 500 years just shot to hell.
Grayfox
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I can't remember the details, but years ago I read or saw a fictional story about one of these multi-generational space flights. After something like 200 years traveling, the colonist arrive at their new planet only to find a thriving human civilization there.
It turned out that some years after the colonists took off, humans developed warp drive or something similar and beat the colonist to the new home world by about 50 years or more. Interesting prospect.
It turned out that some years after the colonists took off, humans developed warp drive or something similar and beat the colonist to the new home world by about 50 years or more. Interesting prospect.
The moon is but a stepping stone for further exploration of our solar system and beyond. Getting past some of our current understanding of the laws of physics will be required to make that leap to other solar systems in our galaxy. That will likely be several generations away. My father was a member of AIAA and some of those scientists had looked into some very interesting ideas concerning space travel/exploration.
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One of the advantages of being wealthy, or at least pretty financially secure was that you ate better, had a warmer house to live in during the winter, and a little more sanitary living conditions. Lots of the things that promote longevity.
Even though lifespans were, on average, significantly shorter than now, it was not that unusual for the better-off to live into their 60’s and 70’s.
The appalling infant and younger child mortality rates brought the overall averages down a lot. A woman giving birth to 5 kids would reasonably expect only 3 or less to make it to adulthood.
As much as I think it would be neat to be able to transport back in time 2, 3, 6 hundred years ago for a few days to experience what society was like, I’m afraid I would be so disgusted with the stench and general unsanitary conditions of the people, food, eating utensils, plates, and bowls that I would be done in about 24 hours.
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I'd be highly curious as to what some of those prospects were.The moon is but a stepping stone for further exploration of our solar system and beyond. Getting past some of our current understanding of the laws of physics will be required to make that leap to other solar systems in our galaxy. That will likely be several generations away. My father was a member of AIAA and some of those scientists had looked into some very interesting ideas concerning space travel/exploration.
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LOL when they arrive they will find Capt. Kirk there to greet them!
