The 'unofficial' 58 Club
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SuperMan
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I'm surprised that S&W hasn't come out with a 58 in .44 Magnum and .45 Colt....
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Just bought Model 58 number S256XXX at a show this past Saturday. Can somebody speculate on when it was made? Pretty honest old shooter, the blued finish has holster rash at the muzzle and around the cylinder, a few minor rust freckles here and there and the exposed backstrap is pretty raw. But is has a perfect bore and good lock-up. Period unmarked aftermarket semi-target type grips without speed loader cut. I paid $408.13 OTD from a dealer. While another .41 Magnum was on my "list" to go with my lonely Blackhawk, I was certainly not looking for a 58 nor had I honestly ever given one much thought. But I dang sure knew a gun that was going home with me when I saw it. Especially when it was on the table of a dealer I had traded with a few times before and the price on the tag was close enough to start a haggle. I can honestly say I don't think I have ever personally laid eyes (or hands) on another 58. I have friends with 57s and 657s but nobody I know has a 58 (except me, HA!). Here are the pics:
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Well Roy said my Model 58 serial number S257445 was shipped in December 1964, so yours must be close!
You got a great deal, it is not very often you came get an N frame for that little coin.
Ohio Deputy
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I'm in the club. Mine is an s series blue model made in November of 1968. To say I'm a fan is mild, that gun saved my life one night, so it's safe to say we are bonded. It still gets carried in a duty holster with Speer Gold Dots.
SuperMan
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Timber Wolf...I hope you kissed him before you left his table...it would have been the least you could do after stealing his gun....
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I am new to the forum so I hope I'm doing this correctly.
I read an article about the 58 back in 97 and was smitten. A few months later I was browsing at Ray's in Dallas and I inquired if they might have a 58. Sure enough they did. I probably paid too much but I had to have it. It's still my favorite.
I read an article about the 58 back in 97 and was smitten. A few months later I was browsing at Ray's in Dallas and I inquired if they might have a 58. Sure enough they did. I probably paid too much but I had to have it. It's still my favorite.
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No, but I wouldn't have minded a hug from his daughter who took my money and handled the 4473.
Me too! But it's no wonder. Over the years S&W has had a genius for not being able to get out of their own way, in certain things. (Or at least it appears that way, to the uninformed observer.
)I would be surprised to see them add different chamberings to the re-introduced 58, even if it does seem easy for them to do - and a passing-fair idea.
Combat_Diver
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Smith did make a 629 PC in .44 mag that had fixed sights and either a 3" or 2.5" bbl.
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SuperMan
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This is the perfect M58. Well done, Sir!
Wow! This may change my 8 3/8 extra barrel project. It was destined for addition to a Blackhawk, but this is exactly what the M58 should have been....
Forgive me but this is how the 58 should have looked. Sort of like S&W finally realizing that the Second Model HE was not quite right and needed to be improved to the Third and then Fourth Model with the barrel shroud.
Keith
Wow! This may change my 8 3/8 extra barrel project. It was destined for addition to a Blackhawk, but this is exactly what the M58 should have been....
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SAFireman
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What do you have that is chambered in 41 Special?
Congrats on the 58...they are a sturdy companion to have around.
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jackcachenc
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Count me as a member. The first M58 I shot was when I was 16-17 years ago. It was my fathers duty weapon. He like the caliber so much he bought a Ruger Blackhawk in .41 Mag.
The loads he carried were Remington Police Load 210 gr SWC.
Elmer Keith intended the .41 to be 210 SWC at 1,000 ft per second. He wanted it to be call .41 Police, but magnum was the craze at the time.
The .41 is actually .40 caliber as is the 10mm. Common 10mm load is 200gr at around 1050fps. The more things change the more they remain the same!
May the .41 was not such a bad thing after all!
Yep I love my 58!!
The loads he carried were Remington Police Load 210 gr SWC.
Elmer Keith intended the .41 to be 210 SWC at 1,000 ft per second. He wanted it to be call .41 Police, but magnum was the craze at the time.
The .41 is actually .40 caliber as is the 10mm. Common 10mm load is 200gr at around 1050fps. The more things change the more they remain the same!
May the .41 was not such a bad thing after all!
Yep I love my 58!!
OK, I want to be a menber of the "Unofficial Mod 58 Fan Club.
I hope Super Man does not see this post, but I know he will...
[A bit of history, we worked together for several years, and were shooting buddies and good friends, he moved away or we would still be shooting together].
Here is my 41 Mag story.
You see I am, and have always been, since the late 1960's early 1970's a 45 ACP and a 44 Mag kind of guy.
The first handgun I carried out of the Academy was a 4" blue Mod 29.
However, one day durring in service training, while at lunch, I went to the Gun Store near the Academy, and bought a Blue Mod 58, and several boxes of ammo. Some of the 210 Lead Police load, and some of the 210 full power magnum load, and a few speed loaders... All at a good price as the owner knew me well. Also beding an Elmer Keithite, I knew all about the 41 Mag.
A few days later I was at the range. Rhe Mod 58 shot great. Actually I could tell no difference in the recoil between 44 Mag loads and 41 Mags loads.
I carried full power 44 Mag loads [I practiced a lot] on duty, and found the 41 mag to be most excellent.
It waas very accurate, and I had no problem shooting 100% on the Dept Qual course with it.
I hope Super Man does not see this post, but I know he will...
[A bit of history, we worked together for several years, and were shooting buddies and good friends, he moved away or we would still be shooting together].
Here is my 41 Mag story.
You see I am, and have always been, since the late 1960's early 1970's a 45 ACP and a 44 Mag kind of guy.
The first handgun I carried out of the Academy was a 4" blue Mod 29.
However, one day durring in service training, while at lunch, I went to the Gun Store near the Academy, and bought a Blue Mod 58, and several boxes of ammo. Some of the 210 Lead Police load, and some of the 210 full power magnum load, and a few speed loaders... All at a good price as the owner knew me well. Also beding an Elmer Keithite, I knew all about the 41 Mag.
A few days later I was at the range. Rhe Mod 58 shot great. Actually I could tell no difference in the recoil between 44 Mag loads and 41 Mags loads.
I carried full power 44 Mag loads [I practiced a lot] on duty, and found the 41 mag to be most excellent.
It waas very accurate, and I had no problem shooting 100% on the Dept Qual course with it.
So I began to use it as my off duty gun. I left my 44 Mag in my locker at the station, and carried the 41, with a few speed loaders off duty.
Then I started to use the Mod 58 as a foul weather gun on duty...
However the problem was, when I carried the 41 on duty I had to change out the dozen or so 44 Mag Speed loaders and the extra box of 50 rounds with the 41 Mag stuff. A lot of Drama...
About this time my partner saw the light, and wanted to go to a 44 Mag.
He had been carrying a 5" Mod 27. A Sheriff Deputy Budy of mine sold him a 4" Nickle Mod 29-2. This is in early 1978. So I started carrying my Nickle 4" Mod 29-2 which was 25 serial numbers different than my pardners...
Then I started to use the Mod 58 as a foul weather gun on duty...
However the problem was, when I carried the 41 on duty I had to change out the dozen or so 44 Mag Speed loaders and the extra box of 50 rounds with the 41 Mag stuff. A lot of Drama...
About this time my partner saw the light, and wanted to go to a 44 Mag.
He had been carrying a 5" Mod 27. A Sheriff Deputy Budy of mine sold him a 4" Nickle Mod 29-2. This is in early 1978. So I started carrying my Nickle 4" Mod 29-2 which was 25 serial numbers different than my pardners...
So since Nickle is much more weather resistant than blue, and we were both carrying 44 Mags, I no longer carried the 41 Mag as a foul weather gun on duty.
I bought an extra hammer, fitted it to the Mod 58 and them bobbed it. I carried the Mod 58 off duty in an upside down shoulder holster, and it was one slick "piece" to draw.
The 41 Mag cartridge, reloads and Remington ammo, baised on its own ballistics is a very good cartridge, for man or beast.
[Again I hope Super Man does not see this, lol]
The Mod 58 is a sleek Duty/offduty/field duty rough usage revolver.
Also the Mod 57 wasw always offered in a 6" which is a lot handier than a 44 mag 6 1/2".
The 6 1/2" S&W's tended sometimes to be a little over 6 1/2", and the 6" N frames tended to be a little under 6", which made them a lot handier for a duty/combat revolver, IMHO.
I bought an extra hammer, fitted it to the Mod 58 and them bobbed it. I carried the Mod 58 off duty in an upside down shoulder holster, and it was one slick "piece" to draw.
The 41 Mag cartridge, reloads and Remington ammo, baised on its own ballistics is a very good cartridge, for man or beast.
[Again I hope Super Man does not see this, lol]
The Mod 58 is a sleek Duty/offduty/field duty rough usage revolver.
Also the Mod 57 wasw always offered in a 6" which is a lot handier than a 44 mag 6 1/2".
The 6 1/2" S&W's tended sometimes to be a little over 6 1/2", and the 6" N frames tended to be a little under 6", which made them a lot handier for a duty/combat revolver, IMHO.
I do wish that they had made a M&P N frame in 44 Mag back in the day.
Since I gradually became a big believer in Commonality, I sold the Mod 58 and bought a 6" Mod 29 in 44 Mag...
Super Man, has been a user of the 38 Super and the 41 Mag from WAY back in the day. Me being a 44 Mag, 45 ACP user, we do tease each other a bit...
My only "beef" with the 41 Mag, is that you cannot buy ammo at most places, and that there are not any Speer shotshells for the 41.
While I am not "Possesed" by the Aura of the 41 Mag, I have owned one, shot it a fair amount, carried it a fair amount, so I think I qualify for membership, in the "Unofficial 58 Club"...
Just do not tell Super Man...
Since I gradually became a big believer in Commonality, I sold the Mod 58 and bought a 6" Mod 29 in 44 Mag...
Super Man, has been a user of the 38 Super and the 41 Mag from WAY back in the day. Me being a 44 Mag, 45 ACP user, we do tease each other a bit...
My only "beef" with the 41 Mag, is that you cannot buy ammo at most places, and that there are not any Speer shotshells for the 41.
While I am not "Possesed" by the Aura of the 41 Mag, I have owned one, shot it a fair amount, carried it a fair amount, so I think I qualify for membership, in the "Unofficial 58 Club"...
Just do not tell Super Man...
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